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Gregory Thompson

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Great puzzle piecing of news and bible verses.

There is no "the antichrist" however. There are many antichrists.

For generations the US has been manufacturing apocalyptic signs such as weakening the atmosphere so the "sun can hurt mankind."

Trump may (or may not) be the manufactured antichrist, but there are many antichrists biblically.

Conflating the man of sin or the man of perdition with the references to an antichrist is kind of like taking all the references to Mary in the bible and saying it's about one person.
 
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There have been entire books written about how each president was the antichrist.
i have to say the weird stuff that suggests america is actually the new jerusalem.. is interesting. not that i think so.

a nation without walls living at ease..
 
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Which applies to like 100 nations.

King James Bible
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
 
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For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
Well, without context, you can apply it to every war or conflict or natural catastrophe ever. But in that case, you made it not very useful. Surely not too useful for Thessalonians.
 
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Well, without context, you can apply it to every war or conflict or natural catastrophe ever. But in that case, you made it not very useful. Surely not too useful for Thessalonians.

I reckon 1 Thess 5:3 is mean't for Israel, as when has there ever been peace in Israel ?
 
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I reckon 1 Thess 5:3 is mean't for Israel, as when has there ever been peace in Israel ?
You need to start with "when", instead of "where". Again, look at what you are reading - a letter to Thessalonians. Paul is talking to them, not to us.

If you will look for the verse to be fulfilled in the 21st century, of course you will get wrong ideas, like that it is the USA or Australia or Switzerland or whatever.
 
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I reckon 1 Thess 5:3 is mean't for Israel, as when has there ever been peace in Israel ?
It's meant for the entire world worshipping the fake Christ and buying into the fake peace he brings. And then bam, the true Christ returns and with that destruction.

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
 
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