Obama referred to DOJ for criminal charges

comana · 2025-07-25T13:21:22-0500

Postvieww said:
Obama is being referred to the DOJ for plotting to interfere with Trumps presidency. By promoting a false accusation he knew was false. Sounds treasonous to me.

Treason as defined by 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

”Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

Perhaps you can show us how the allegations against Obama fit that description.

wing2000 · 2025-07-25T13:57:01-0500

comana said:
Treason as defined by 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

”Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

Perhaps you can show us how the allegations against Obama fit that description.

Since the DNI is sourcing Russian intelligence for some of her accusations, maybe the DOJ should evaluate her actions?

Oompa Loompa · 2025-07-25T14:05:57-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
I bet Kristi Noem is gonna be upset that all her plastic surgery failed to win her that title.

I am sure many people voted for Trump because they though Melania would be a prettier first lady than Bill Clinton.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-07-25T14:13:01-0500

comana said:
Treason as defined by 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

”Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

Perhaps you can show us how the allegations against Obama fit that description.

I am in agreement with you on this one. If true, what Obama did would not be treason, rather it would more properly fall under Sedicious Conspiracy.

§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Oompa Loompa · 2025-07-25T14:14:53-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
Then you should probably do more reading on what Obama actually did and what constitutes treason.

Seditious conspiracy would be more appropriate than treason.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-07-25T15:36:31-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
I am sure many people voted for Trump because they though Melania would be a prettier first lady than Bill Clinton.

Her Christmas decorations are better, too.

Oompa Loompa said:
Seditious conspiracy would be more appropriate than treason.

Funny how this constitutes "seditious conspiracy" but Trump's actual, literal attempt to steal an election was less "important" than the price of french fries and the investigative hearings were an "insult to democracy".

You guys aren't being serious.

DaisyDay · 2025-07-25T16:42:28-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
I am in agreement with you on this one. If true, what Obama did would not be treason, rather it would more properly fall under Sedicious Conspiracy.

§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Yeah, that doesn’t work for this.

essentialsaltes · 2025-07-25T16:59:44-0500

essentialsaltes said:
The phrase "treasonous conspiracy" left the lips of DNI Gabbard in the OP.

Tulsi Gabbard Argues Obama Is Guilty of Treason Because ‘There Has to Be Peaceful Transition of Power’

“Can you make the case– can you present the arguments– the best bill you can with unclassified information and public information what makes you believe that this reaches that [treasonous] sort of threshold?” [Kirk] asked.

“When we look at our Democratic Republic, Charlie, our system is built on the foundation of the American people casting their votes for who they want to be in office, to be our president and commander-in-chief.” said Gabbard. “In this system, there has to be a peaceful transfer of power.”

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-07-25T17:03:26-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Tulsi Gabbard Argues Obama Is Guilty of Treason Because ‘There Has to Be Peaceful Transition of Power’
“Can you make the case– can you present the arguments– the best bill you can with unclassified information and public information what makes you believe that this reaches that [treasonous] sort of threshold?” [Kirk] asked.

“When we look at our Democratic Republic, Charlie, our system is built on the foundation of the American people casting their votes for who they want to be in office, to be our president and commander-in-chief.” said Gabbard. “In this system, there has to be a peaceful transfer of power.”

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Incredible to think this woman tried running for the democratic nomination just 5 years ago.

The way Trump corrupts everything and everyone around him is quite a thing to behold.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-07-25T17:03:35-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Tulsi Gabbard Argues Obama Is Guilty of Treason Because ‘There Has to Be Peaceful Transition of Power’
“Can you make the case– can you present the arguments– the best bill you can with unclassified information and public information what makes you believe that this reaches that [treasonous] sort of threshold?” [Kirk] asked.

“When we look at our Democratic Republic, Charlie, our system is built on the foundation of the American people casting their votes for who they want to be in office, to be our president and commander-in-chief.” said Gabbard. “In this system, there has to be a peaceful transfer of power.”

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How does she say that with a straight, really hot, face?

iluvatar5150 · 2025-07-25T17:04:03-0500

GoldenBoy89 said:
Incredible to think this woman tried running for the democratic nomination just 5 years ago.

The way Trump corrupts everything and everyone around him is quite a thing to behold.

idk if you can pin that one on Trump. Seems like she went where her crazy would be accepted.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-07-25T17:05:53-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
idk if you can pin that one on Trump. Seems like she went where her crazy would be accepted.

I pin everything on him but he certainly found a good crop of unscrupulous people to fill his cabinet this time around.

eclipsenow · 2025-07-25T20:46:55-0500

Always in His Presence said:
words that never existed???

Seditious refers to actions or speech that incite rebellion or discontent against the established government or authority. It often involves promoting resistance or insurrection, and can include both spoken and written expressions that challenge the legitimacy of the government.

You should use your spell check. The word is an accurate depiction of what Barack Hussein Obama may have done.

No - Trump should spell check his own words

The word is an accurate depiction of what Barack Hussein Obama may have done.

Ha ha ha!

I was about to post that Trump's "Weapons of Mass Distraction" are not working on most people.
I guess that's still true.
For most people.

Meanwhile:

1. Who incited a coup against the Capitol on Jan 6 that resulted in 5 deaths?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

2. Who immediately freed 1500 insurrectionists the moment he got into office - and even commuted the sentences of the 14 most violent? Granting Pardons And Commutation Of Sentences For Certain Offenses Relating To The Events At Or Near The United States Capitol On January 6, 2021

3. Who is on tape demanding Georgia rig the election in Trump's favour?

“All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state.”

What Trump said to Georgia election officials in phone call

Former President Donald Trump has described his January 2021 phone call with Georgia election officials as "perfect." Pr

www.politifact.com

4. Who was forced to pay $5 million in both sexual assault and then character assassination civil cases?

Donald Trump loses civil rape trial, ordered to pay $5 million

Jurors took less than three hours to hand down their verdict after a fast-paced trial where the former president offered no defense case.

www.courthousenews.com

5. Who committed fraud against New York by inflating the value of his real estate in New York?

Donald Trump defrauded banks for years, New York civil case rules

A judge rules that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.

www.abc.net.au

6. Who is letting it accumulate to over half a billion while challenging it...

President Trump's New York fraud debt tops $500 million

The figure has been growing while President Trump appeals a 2024 judgment finding he and his company liable for fraud.

www.cbsnews.com

7. Yet may be banking on some insider trading in the meantime by having mates place bets on the stock market as he gives them some insider trading?
Even the WSJ found that timing to be suspicious.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-10-25/card/trades-before-trump-tariff-post-draw-scrutiny-Ox7nxJbE75ycfOVUvDEc

Oh but sure - Barack "Obamna" is somehow to blame because Russia likes the fact that they have had KGB agents grooming Trump since the 1980's. That's Obama's fault!

NxNW · 2025-07-25T22:07:17-0500

wing2000 said:
One thing is clear - Tulsi is back in the club:

“She’s, like, hotter than everybody. She’s the hottest one in the room right now.”

That was Elon 6 weeks ago.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-07-26T01:13:44-0500

eclipsenow said:
No - Trump should spell check his own words
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Ha ha ha!

I was about to post that Trump's "Weapons of Mass Distraction" are not working on most people.
I guess that's still true.
For most people.

Meanwhile:

1. Who incited a coup against the Capitol on Jan 6 that resulted in 5 deaths?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

2. Who immediately freed 1500 insurrectionists the moment he got into office - and even commuted the sentences of the 14 most violent? Granting Pardons And Commutation Of Sentences For Certain Offenses Relating To The Events At Or Near The United States Capitol On January 6, 2021

3. Who is on tape demanding Georgia rig the election in Trump's favour?

“All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state.”

What Trump said to Georgia election officials in phone call

Former President Donald Trump has described his January 2021 phone call with Georgia election officials as "perfect." Pr

www.politifact.com

4. Who was forced to pay $5 million in both sexual assault and then character assassination civil cases?

Donald Trump loses civil rape trial, ordered to pay $5 million

Jurors took less than three hours to hand down their verdict after a fast-paced trial where the former president offered no defense case.

www.courthousenews.com

5. Who committed fraud against New York by inflating the value of his real estate in New York?

Donald Trump defrauded banks for years, New York civil case rules

A judge rules that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.

www.abc.net.au

6. Who is letting it accumulate to over half a billion while challenging it...

President Trump's New York fraud debt tops $500 million

The figure has been growing while President Trump appeals a 2024 judgment finding he and his company liable for fraud.

www.cbsnews.com

7. Yet may be banking on some insider trading in the meantime by having mates place bets on the stock market as he gives them some insider trading?
Even the WSJ found that timing to be suspicious.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-10-25/card/trades-before-trump-tariff-post-draw-scrutiny-Ox7nxJbE75ycfOVUvDEc

Oh but sure - Barack "Obamna" is somehow to blame because Russia likes the fact that they have had KGB agents grooming Trump since the 1980's. That's Obama's fault!

Other than for just pure whataboutism, what did anything you posted have to do with the op topic?

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