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Jewish Israel is a Misnomer

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I believe that the true Israelites of God are all the faithful Christian peoples. From every tribe, race, nation and language.

The point of this thread is that the Jews as a people group are no longer Gods chosen people. Only a remnant who are Christians now, will join with their brethren in the Holy Land for the end times. Jeremiah 50:4-5
If that is true why does scripture say that the Jews will have a veil over their eyes until the fulness of the Gentiles is complete, then the veil will be lifted. If they already are following Jesus why do they have a veil covering them that will be removed?
 
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If that is true why does scripture say that the Jews will have a veil over their eyes until the fulness of the Gentiles is complete, then the veil will be lifted. If they already are following Jesus why do they have a veil covering them that will be removed?
Please write out the scripture to support your contention.
Show us the Prophecy of a general Jewish redemption. Note: in Romans 11:26-27, that Paul refers to the whole of Israel and to Jacob. Therefore this refers to all of the twelve tribes, not just Judah and Benjamin.
 
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Their fate is that they shall ALL be saved,
The idea that every living Jew will be saved, is contrary to the Bible and even the teachings of Jesus. Matthew 8:12, Luke 19:27, +
Paul is very clear: Only a remnant shall be saved. Romans 9:27

I suggest you put aside the false teachings of those who promote a rapture to heaven of the Church. It is that false theory which must have a Jewish redemption; them on earth, undergoing tribulation, us sitting in heaven, watching.
So totally unbelievable and unscriptural and cannot happen.
 
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The idea that every living Jew will be saved, is contrary to the Bible and even the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus is the Savior of the world. Don't know why that's difficult

And there is scripture provided if you can get around your self imposed ill sights for the purposefully blinded
 
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Jesus is the Savior of the world. Don't know why that's difficult
ONLY for those who accept His Salvation.
It will be Gods disposal unit for those who refuse Him. Revelation 20:15
 
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ONLY for those who accept His Salvation.
It will be Gods disposal unit for those who refuse Him. Revelation 20:15
Everyone who loves knows God and is born of God. 1 John 4:7

Some just have their subjective salvation filter ratcheted up far too tightly, such as shown here:

Matthew 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

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