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How do we set aside the grace of God?

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I reckon you mean "translate" and not interpret. ALTHOUGH 'interpret' has come to mean translate in millions of places all around the world, mixing them up leads only to problems often.
I do not believe you even understand what the discussion was about or what was stated. It wasn’t about Heb 4:11


I know people like to jump in and accuse, but sometime it’s better to speak slow and understand the discussion before doing so. I am happy to discuss what we were referring to and the Greek definition and compare how it was used elsewhere in Scripture. That would be more fruitful than just posting an opinion.
 
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This was/is the post I replied to. If someone/anyone "interprets" OR "translates" words incorrectly, it is an error.

We should not try to interpret Yahweh's Word, but accurate translation is helpful and may be useful when used correctly.
I was referring to the very first post you replied to me about. For the record if you would have taken time to read the posts would have seen I just posted the Greek defintion of the word that was used. If you disagree, I am open to a discussion on Scripture, as these types of discussions are not fruitful.

It’s okay, you take care.
 
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The Scripture says not to interpret Scripture. The meaning of a word, especially a Greek definition, when compared to a Hebrew or Aramaic definition , in context, may be wrong. Thankfully , we hope, not often.
Most types of discussions online are not ever fruitful, so there's that to live with, btw.
Everyone interprets Scripture, even you. That why we need to prayerfully look at everything on difficult to understand Scriptures otherwise we would have Paul contradict Jesus and himself saying the law ended, when its not the meaning of the word in its original form.

Why don’t you go back through this thread and read what was stated and if you wish to comment on the Scripture that we are discussing I will be happy to do so, otherwise I will leave it at agree to disagree.
 
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interpret​


[in-tur-prit]
Phonetic (Standard)IPA

verb (used with object)​

  1. to give or provide the meaning of; explain; explicate; elucidate.
    to interpret the hidden meaning of a parable.
  2. to construe or understand in a particular way.
    to interpret a reply as favorable.
  3. to bring out the meaning of (a dramatic work, music, etc.) by performance or execution.
  4. to perform or render (a song, role in a play, etc.) according to one's own understanding or sensitivity.
    The actor interpreted Lear as a weak, pitiful old man.
  5. to translate orally.
  6. Computers.
    1. to use an interpreter to transform (a program written in a high-level language) into a sequence of machine actions, one statement at a time, executing each statement immediately before going on to transform the next one.
    2. to read (the patterns of holes in punched cards) with an interpreter, printing the interpreted data on the sam
It’s why there are hundreds of translations because everyone interprets Scripture differently. Many never look at the original Greek or Hebrew words or how it reconciles with the other Scriptures which was my original point.
 
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Yet it is an important truth to realize your definition of interpret, like most religion, is not what Jesus ever says. All thru religion and society interpret has become an error often repeated -
and as long as someone believes the error(s), no argument will convince them because using a false meaning as if true cements the error in place unchangeable (probably).
Thus, perhaps, one of the truths from Scripture, why the Father Himself is well pleased to hide salvation from the educated ones, and to freely and joyously reveal everything true about salvation to infants.
Even that is up for interpretation of what “educated ones” means. Was Paul not educated? Did Jesus hide salvation from Paul? There are many people who prayerfully study the Bible and well-educated on Scripture, it doesn’t mean Jesus is hiding His salvation from them. He doesn't hide His salvation from anyone, people choose to stay in darkness(sin) over coming to Jesus for salvation John 3:19-21. He died for everyone 1 John2:2 and salvation is for everyone, not everyone accepts it though.
 
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Anyone who ever loses sight of why they need God, probably will not wind up being saved.

So, ask yourself this very, very important question then, "Why do I need God?", etc. That is, "What do I need Him to give me, or show me, or provide for me in order for me to get into Heaven after I die?"

You'd be surprised to know how many different people's answer to this question is "Nothing", or they can't ever answer it right, or properly, or in the way that it needs to be answered in order to get you into Heaven, etc. Best you be able to answer it, and answer it right, now, etc.

We must never lose sight of the fact that we will always need God to make up for where we don't measure up, etc. So, do/be/perform, etc, all you like, etc, but never ever lose sight of the fact that you will always need this from God, "or else", etc. (Or else you don't really need Him for anything that He can give you, etc).

God Bless.
 
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Momentarily seeing this, I think God's Message in Galatians Says it is not true. Experientially Living in Jesus, I have not struggled to "do the law" in order to remain in Him. Having begun in spirit, we do not continue in the flesh but trusting Him remain in His life, His spirit. Very rare, but always hopeful trusting God and His Word to be Truth.
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. NKJV

I hope that you are not saying that you do not sin.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. NKJV

You must be saying that because you confess your sins, God forgives you and therefore you are sinless.
 
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