Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T06:51:03-0500

David Lamb said:
Your link takes me to 153 News. Do you know anything about that organisation? I have never heard of it, and someone has said here that it isn't a trustworthy source.

Which doesn't surprise me

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T06:52:33-0500

Phil G said:
Putting words in my mouth I see. No, the evidence debunking accusations against moon landings is easy to understand & makes perfect sense. The accusations against moon landings are just that - accusations & nothing more…by people who either can’t understand simple science or are deliberately pushing lies.

Pushing the truth more like.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T07:02:28-0500

Apple Sky said:
I doubt this very much..........

Oh??? Persisting in a lie certainly affects a person’s relationship with God.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T07:04:35-0500

Apple Sky said:
Pushing the truth more like.

Again a claim with no evidence. Christian astronauts are eyewitnesses. Sites like 153 news are just pushing opinions with no eyewitness accounts to counter Christian testimony.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T07:05:30-0500

Apple Sky said:
Which doesn't surprise me

It doesn’t surprise me either that you keep posting conspiracy theories. After all you are, by your own admission, an addict.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T07:10:59-0500

Apple Sky said:
It's riddled with the truth that no one will believe because it's contrary to their beliefs.

Strange as it may seem to you, but most of the globe earthers on this forum and in TFE are prepared to admit they are wrong if the evidence supports a flat earth.

I speak for myself when I say that about 9 years ago I went about questioning the shape of the earth. Not one claim by flat earthers stood up to scrutiny for me. That’s mainly because I have a rational mind that’s prepared to investigate the veracity of a claim, and I can understand basic physics very well.

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T07:37:22-0500

Phil G said:
I speak for myself when I say that about 9 years ago I went about questioning the shape of the earth. Not one claim by flat earthers stood up to scrutiny for me.

That's b/c you never looked into it enough.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T07:42:49-0500

Apple Sky said:
That's b/c you never looked into it enough.

What?? How do you know that?? You don’t know how many hours I’ve poured over claims and how many hours I checked and investigated. You don’t even know me.

You’re making assumptions and accusations beyond your scope of knowledge, which you do a lot, again by your own admission. If science and maths are gobbledygook to you, then how do you know they are not true?

At least some of that "gobbledygook" is responsible for giving you a life-saving operation, and providing you with medicine in order to continue your life (again I'm going by what you have posted elsewhere on CF for that information). It's also responsible for you being able to post your opinions here on the internet. But it's all gobbledygook that you can't get your head around. Yet here you are.

No, as I’ve already said and which you chose to imply was a lie, the reason why no flat earth claims stand up to scrutiny to me is because I’ve spent the time to investigate. And because I have a naturally inquiring mind and have a grasp of basic physics, I can see where the claims don’t add up, not by a long shot.

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T09:37:38-0500

Phil G said:
What?? How do you know that?? You don’t know how many hours I’ve poured over claims and how many hours I checked and investigated. You don’t even know me.

You’re making assumptions and accusations beyond your scope of knowledge, which you do a lot, again by your own admission. If science and maths are gobbledygook to you, then how do you know they are not true?

At least some of that "gobbledygook" is responsible for giving you a life-saving operation, and providing you with medicine in order to continue your life (again I'm going by what you have posted elsewhere on CF for that information). It's also responsible for you being able to post your opinions here on the internet. But it's all gobbledygook that you can't get your head around. Yet here you are.

No, as I’ve already said and which you chose to imply was a lie, the reason why no flat earth claims stand up to scrutiny to me is because I’ve spent the time to investigate. And because I have a naturally inquiring mind and have a grasp of basic physics, I can see where the claims don’t add up, not by a long shot.

OK - Fair enough, keep yer hair on.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T09:47:17-0500

Apple Sky said:
OK - Fair enough, keep yer hair on.

You made the accusation. So stop being so flippant about it.

And I’ll add a bit of information about what I’ve done. So far I’ve written 4 papers (for my own reference) responding to flat earth claims. And I’ve written another 6 papers on other conspiracy theories, again for my own reference so that I can refer to my findings if I need to.

This wasn’t just a one off cursory brush off. It’s an ongoing detailed research.

And I’ve yet to see any evidence supporting flat earth that stands up to investigation. Not one.

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T10:10:29-0500

Phil G said:
You made the accusation. So stop being so flippant about it.

And I’ll add a bit of information about what I’ve done. So far I’ve written 4 papers (for my own reference) responding to flat earth claims. And I’ve written another 6 papers on other conspiracy theories, again for my own reference so that I can refer to my findings if I need to.

This wasn’t just a one off cursory brush off. It’s an ongoing detailed research.

And I’ve yet to see any evidence supporting flat earth that stands up to investigation. Not one.

So, all this proves what ?

Phil G · 2025-07-22T10:12:48-0500

Apple Sky said:
So, all this proves what ?

So it all proves that I’ve done, and continue to do, the necessary work to be able to say flat earth is false. It proves that you make accusations and assumptions without the knowledge to be able to support those accusations and assumptions.

You made the accusation that people won’t believe conspiracy theories on 153 news because the site posts stuff contrary to their beliefs. I’ve shown that isn’t true. I don’t believe them because they don’t stand up to scrutiny, not because they’re contrary to my beliefs.

Why do you accuse me of not looking into it enough? Why do you dump on personal testimonies of fellow Christians? Why do you deny personal eyewitness testimonies by Christian astronauts who have seen the true shape of the earth with their own eyes?

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T10:47:24-0500

Phil G said:
Why do you deny personal eyewitness testimonies by Christian astronauts who have seen the true shape of the earth with their own eyes?

Because my beliefs wont hold up to anyone who has been to the moon let alone walked on it. I need more proof than just CGI pictures & hearsay.

Phil G · 2025-07-22T10:51:18-0500

Apple Sky said:
Because my beliefs wont hold up to anyone who has been to the moon let alone walked on it. I need more proof than just CGI pictures & hearsay.

Hang on, what did you accuse people of doing? That they don't believe 153 news because it's contrary to their beliefs.

And now what have you just said? That your beliefs won't hold up to.....

That's what you're accusing others of doing!!! :doh:

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T11:03:29-0500

Phil G said:
Hang on, what did you accuse people of doing? That they don't believe 153 news because it's contrary to their beliefs.

And now what have you just said? That your beliefs won't hold up to.....

That's what you're accusing others of doing!!!

How am I ?

Phil G · 2025-07-22T11:06:21-0500

Apple Sky said:
How am I ?

Oh come on!! You've just said in effect that you don't accept that man walked on the moon because it's contrary to your beliefs.

You said "My beliefs wont hold up to anyone who has been to the moon let alone walked on it."

That's a denial based on your beliefs and nothing more. And that's what you've accused others (including me) of doing. Or have you already forgotten that fact???

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T16:21:08-0500

Phil G said:
Oh come on!! You've just said in effect that you don't accept that man walked on the moon because it's contrary to your beliefs.

No

Phil G said:
You said "My beliefs wont hold up to anyone who has been to the moon let alone walked on it.

No

Phil G said:
That's a denial based on your beliefs and nothing more. And that's what you've accused others (including me) of doing. Or have you already forgotten that fact???

No

Phil G · 2025-07-22T16:21:36-0500

Apple Sky said:
No

No

No

No

prodromos · 2025-07-22T18:19:41-0500

Apple Sky said:
No

No

No

So apparently we can't take you at your word.

Apple Sky · 2025-07-22T22:35:01-0500

prodromos said:
So apparently we can't take you at your word.

How come ? I'm not getting all this ?????????????

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