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Allentown Green Card Holder Disappeared by ICE to Guatemala

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Luis Leon, 82, lost his wallet which contained his green card issued in 1987 after receiving asylum from Chile post-torture. He went with his wife to an immigration office in Philadelphia for a replacement. From there, he was disappeared.



The last time anyone in the family saw Leon was June 20, when he went with his wife to a Philadelphia immigration office to have his lost green card replaced.

There, the family says, he was handcuffed by two officers, who led him away without explanation. His wife, who speaks little English, was left behind and kept in the building for 10 hours until she was released to her granddaughter, the family says.

Repeated inquiries to immigration officials, prisons, hospitals and even a morgue yielded no information. Leon’s name was not in ICE’s online database of detainees.

Finally, on Friday, a relative from Leon’s native Chile was told he had been taken first to a detention center in Minnesota and then to Guatemala. The hospital, citing privacy rules, would not verify his presence there when contacted by The Morning Call.

Chile's Pinochet was famous for disappearing its people. I think he has a modern day rival.
 

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This is not good. It sounds like ICE screwed up here. I'll be honest, im frustrated at this one. It seems that some investigation by ICE would have uncovered everything.

Im sure the guy told them who he was and why he was there. A little investigation would have cleared this up.
I still support ICE and their enforcement actions. But I want ILLEGALS deported. And it appears that this guy was a legal and did NOT have his Visa canceled.
 
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Luis Leon, 82, lost his wallet which contained his green card issued in 1987 after receiving asylum from Chile post-torture. He went with his wife to an immigration office in Philadelphia for a replacement. From there, he was disappeared.


The last time anyone in the family saw Leon was June 20, when he went with his wife to a Philadelphia immigration office to have his lost green card replaced.​
There, the family says, he was handcuffed by two officers, who led him away without explanation. His wife, who speaks little English, was left behind and kept in the building for 10 hours until she was released to her granddaughter, the family says.​
Repeated inquiries to immigration officials, prisons, hospitals and even a morgue yielded no information. Leon’s name was not in ICE’s online database of detainees.​
Finally, on Friday, a relative from Leon’s native Chile was told he had been taken first to a detention center in Minnesota and then to Guatemala. The hospital, citing privacy rules, would not verify his presence there when contacted by The Morning Call.​

Chile's Pinochet was famous for disappearing its people. I think he has a modern day rival.
This is why some argue that such deportations should go through better due process. I suppose ICE can cancel anyone's visa as it is a privilege, but even a driver has a chance to maintain their driving privilege before a court. At 82 he likely was on some medication (s) which were probably missed. It might be wise to seek a hospital visit for any elderly foreigner facing confinement and possible deportation by ICE. At least then there would be a record of their failure if they decided to ignore that and deport. If this continues ICE is going to end up killing some people from their aggressiveness. I pray they offer compassion to all foreigners both legal and illegal, with most if not all deportations going to those that cause harm.
 
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This is why some argue that such deportations should go through better due process. I suppose ICE can cancel anyone's visa as it is a privilege, but even a driver has a chance to maintain their driving privilege before a court. At 82 he likely was on some medication (s) which were probably missed. It might be wise to seek a hospital visit for any elderly foreigner facing confinement and possible deportation by ICE. At least then there would be a record of their failure if they decided to ignore that and deport. If this continues ICE is going to end up killing some people from their aggressiveness. I pray they offer compassion to all foreigners both legal and illegal, with most if not all deportations going to those that cause harm.
This wasn’t a “visa”; this was an I-551 (or Permanent Resident Card), which I’m sure can also be revoked, but would require more than just losing your wallet.
 
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This wasn’t a “visa”; this was an I-551 (or Permanent Resident Card), which I’m sure can also be revoked, but would require more than just losing your wallet.
Thanks for pointing that out. On a sidenote, I think the GOP will not be hurt more by immigrants as far more will seek to convert to citizens as soon as possible rather than take the path of a permanent resident. I'll assume this man had a choice and that more Hispanic citizens will vote for democrats?
 
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This is not good. It sounds like ICE screwed up here. I'll be honest, im frustrated at this one. It seems that some investigation by ICE would have uncovered everything.

Im sure the guy told them who he was and why he was there. A little investigation would have cleared this up.
I still support ICE and their enforcement actions. But I want ILLEGALS deported. And it appears that this guy was a legal and did NOT have his Visa canceled.
They knew who he was and what he was doing and were waiting for him
 
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They knew who he was and what he was doing and were waiting for him
We dont know the entire story. So I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket. But regardless, this one shouldnt have happened imo.

I still support ICEs excellent efforts. Now just take a deep breath, ICE, and give it some more time to look into things before the actual deportation.
 
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We dont know the entire story. So I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket. But regardless, this one shouldnt have happened imo.

I still support ICEs excellent efforts. Now just take a deep breath, ICE, and give it some more time to look into things before the actual deportation.
News this morning is that ICE denies the whole thing. His granddaughter claims he is in hospital in Guatemala, but Guatemalan authorities say the have no record of receiving him as a deportee. Something fishy is going on, but it may well be that ICE had nothing to do with it.
 
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News this morning is that ICE denies the whole thing.
Curiouser and curiouser.

If this is a hoax, it is pretty elaborate. Were they planning to fundraise off the story?
His granddaughter claims he is in hospital in Guatemala, but Guatemalan authorities say the have no record of receiving him as a deportee. Something fishy is going on, but it may well be that ICE had nothing to do with it.


The Guatemalan Institute of Migration, which tracks migrants sent to that country, said it has not received anyone of South American origin, and said there is “no person who matches the name, age and nationality mentioned by the media,” according to the Associated Press.​
A Chilean journalist, Jose Del Pino of Canalo 13, said a doctor at the Guatemala City hospital where Nataly claimed to see her grandfather had no record of him.​
Additionally, Del Pino said, a man by the same name and date of birth died in Santiago, Chile, in 2019. Chilean citizens are issued national identification numbers and none matches another person with that name and birthday, he said. Del Pino provided a copy of the death certificate to The Morning Call.​

The original story seems to have fallen apart.
 
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