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MAGA takes Medicaid Personal Health Records
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My lawyers will be contacting you shortly in the matter of your destruction of my irony meter.
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All four years, Biden was a threat to the Constitution?
Every single day, eh?
Hyperpartisanship is not conducive to civil discourse, I bid you adieu.
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In what ways?
Please feel free to articulate this in detail for us, seeings as how it seems so plainly evident to you and is news to the rest of us.
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It depends on what he does. The proper loyalty of an American is to the Constitution and the Constitution only, not the President.
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It’s good that you’re committed to your views, there’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
Some of us on the left are concerned that civil rights seem to be eroded in the effort to remove people here who happened to be born in the wrong country and didn’t get official permission to attempt to live here.
Do you have any thought along those lines with regard to ICE receiving Medicaid data when immigrants (legal) aren’t generally eligible to receive Medicaid assistance and “illegal immigrants” shouldn’t be on any rolls at all?
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"The database will reveal to ICE officials the names, addresses, birth dates, ethnic and racial information, as well as Social Security numbers for all people enrolled in Medicaid. The state and federally funded program provides health care coverage program for the poorest of people, including millions of children."
This is all stuff they have anyway, and I'm not seeing where it's a case that they're looking for any specific health-related data.
How else would you be able to screen for improper or fraudulent Medicaid enrollment?
I suppose you could do it in the other direction...
Where ICE gives their list of "here's the people/addresses we're looking for", and Medicaid people have to provide them with the non-health related data they have...but I suspect people wouldn't like that one either.
But Medicare enrollment fraud is one of those things you just can't track down without at least some level of data sharing.
Otherwise, you're going to have a lot of the "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" situations across state lines.
Since they are mainly state-run systems (and are merely funded by a federal/state partnership), and many states don't have a fully integrated system with each other (some states do, others don't), without building some sort of centralized system this particular problem would be extremely difficult to solve.
While the IT guy in my completely understands and sympathizes with the "we shouldn't have all of our data eggs in one basket" concern... the reality is, any effort the administration comes up with that helps speed up the deportation process is being met with scorn from people who don't think deportations should happen at all.
I've mentioned it before, but the status quo "It takes 30 minutes to sneak in, and then 30 years worth of paper work to get you back out" routine isn't going to fly anymore.
2/3 of Americans support it.
When you knee cap every effort to slow the in-flow, it was only a matter of time before people got on board with measures that expedite the out-flow.
"Give them anything they need, no matter sensitive the data, to get a grip on the undocumented problem"
...is a direct result of...
"Border walls are racist, you can't do that"
"Anyone who claims asylum, you have to accept it no matter how flimsy the reason"
"You have to just let them in if they're there with a kid, because otherwise it would separate a family"
The reality is, if you don't want "ICE gets Medicaid data so they can find undocumented people and expedite their removal", then some folks are going to have to meet their fellow countrymen halfway on this one, and make some proposals of their own for "How can we strictly control who comes into our country", because that's what people want.
This is all stuff they have anyway, and I'm not seeing where it's a case that they're looking for any specific health-related data.
How else would you be able to screen for improper or fraudulent Medicaid enrollment?
I suppose you could do it in the other direction...
Where ICE gives their list of "here's the people/addresses we're looking for", and Medicaid people have to provide them with the non-health related data they have...but I suspect people wouldn't like that one either.
But Medicare enrollment fraud is one of those things you just can't track down without at least some level of data sharing.
Otherwise, you're going to have a lot of the "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" situations across state lines.
Since they are mainly state-run systems (and are merely funded by a federal/state partnership), and many states don't have a fully integrated system with each other (some states do, others don't), without building some sort of centralized system this particular problem would be extremely difficult to solve.
While the IT guy in my completely understands and sympathizes with the "we shouldn't have all of our data eggs in one basket" concern... the reality is, any effort the administration comes up with that helps speed up the deportation process is being met with scorn from people who don't think deportations should happen at all.
I've mentioned it before, but the status quo "It takes 30 minutes to sneak in, and then 30 years worth of paper work to get you back out" routine isn't going to fly anymore.
2/3 of Americans support it.
When you knee cap every effort to slow the in-flow, it was only a matter of time before people got on board with measures that expedite the out-flow.
"Give them anything they need, no matter sensitive the data, to get a grip on the undocumented problem"
...is a direct result of...
"Border walls are racist, you can't do that"
"Anyone who claims asylum, you have to accept it no matter how flimsy the reason"
"You have to just let them in if they're there with a kid, because otherwise it would separate a family"
The reality is, if you don't want "ICE gets Medicaid data so they can find undocumented people and expedite their removal", then some folks are going to have to meet their fellow countrymen halfway on this one, and make some proposals of their own for "How can we strictly control who comes into our country", because that's what people want.
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The thinking was that the border-wall was only being implemented along the southern border; the Canadian border though longer and even less secure didn’t warrant a border-wall.
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