Democrats clash with ICE over characterization of marijuana farm raid

rjs330 · 2025-07-15T06:49:06-0500

wing2000 said:
Detaining an American, disabled veteran.
Classy move ICE.

Deatained on Thursday.
....not released until Sunday according to an update from the US attorney's office.

THIS IS TRUMP'S AMERICA. Arresting US citizens and detaining them for days based on their appearance.

AMARILLO, Calif. -- Concerned family members are desperate for answers after they say a disabled U.S. veteran and citizen was taken during a federal immigration raid at a cannabis farm in Camarillo, California.

George Retes, 25, works as a security guard at Glass House Farms, where the raid took place Thursday. His sister and wife told our sister station, ABC7 Eyewitness News in Los Angeles, that he was trying to leave the area as tensions escalated between federal agents and protesters.

"ICE thought he was probably part of the protest, but he wasn't, he was trying to reverse his car," said his sister, Destinee Majana. "They broke his window, they pepper-sprayed him, they grabbed him, threw him on the floor. They detained him."

Disabled veteran who is a US citizen was taken during SoCal immigration raid, family says

Concerned family members are desperate for answers after they say a disabled U.S. veteran and citizen was taken during a federal immigration raid at a cannabis farm in Southern California.

abc7chicago.com

ICE Disappears American Citizen Disabled Veteran (Edit: Recent Updates)

ICE has disappeared an American citizen and disabled veteran. His name is George Retes. He works as a security guard in Camarillo California. You may have heard about Thursday ICE raid on a legal marijuana farm in that area that detained over 200...

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This is what happens when the left gets violent. ICE isnt going to put up with it anymore. So when the left gets violent LE is going to start doing something about it. And when that happens sometimes innocent people are going to get caught up in it. After an investigation they let him go. When you round up that many people it takes time to identify them all and process or unprocess them.

Stop interfering with lawful actions. Period.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-07-15T08:04:58-0500

Valletta said:
You quote her.

What for? I’m perfectly fine with everything she’s said and done so far.

wing2000 · 2025-07-15T08:07:26-0500

rjs330 said:
This is what happens when the left gets violent. ICE isnt going to put up with it anymore. So when the left gets violent LE is going to start doing something about it. And when that happens sometimes innocent people are going to get caught up in it. After an investigation they let him go. When you round up that many people it takes time to identify them all and process or unprocess them.

Stop interfering with lawful actions. Period.

This is what happes when MAGA attempts to deflect responsbility for their leader's actions.

"They let him go....."

Yes, they left a US citizen and veteran go after 4 days in detention.

essentialsaltes · 2025-07-15T09:23:47-0500

In a statement, [California] state officials said they had conducted a site visit at Glass House in May and found no violations. But later that month, the department received a complaint [of underage workers] and opened the investigation.

“The employment of individuals under the age of 21 in the cannabis industry is strictly illegal, a serious matter, and is not tolerated,” the statement said. “We encourage anyone with information about child labor or trafficking at any facility to immediately contact the Department.”

Glass House is one of the largest legal cannabis operations in California, the largest taxpayer in Ventura County and one of the area’s largest employers. One of its founders, Kyle Kazan, is a former Torrance police officer.

Court filings show many of Glass House’s employees actually work for a Camarillo labor contractor.

[This is the same fig leaf that allows many companies to hire illegal workers and keep its hands clean.]

The labor contractor and the company have been accused of labor law violations in recent years, including failure to pay overtime or give meal breaks. Glass House has disputed the charges, levied in civil suits in Ventura and Los Angeles counties, which are still pending in court.

An attorney at the Immigrant Defenders Law Center, Yliana Johansen-Mendez, said her office had interviewed some of the children who had been detained as part of the raid. She said all the children now face deportation. Even those children who have family members nearby, she said, probably will not be able to reunite with them easily.

“It’s nearly impossible for undocumented family members to get children out of ORR [the Office of Refugee Resettlement] to reunite,” she said, adding that under the Trump administration, the government has been pushing to deport children who in years past may have been granted residency.

rjs330 · 2025-07-15T15:22:22-0500

wing2000 said:
This is what happes when MAGA attempts to deflect responsbility for their leader's actions.

"They let him go....."

Yes, they left a US citizen and veteran go after 4 days in detention.

If the stories arw true he wouldn't have been there if not for the actions of the leftists.

Also, apparently the illegals were trying to run away. This guy was seen trying to leave as well. This would have led agents to believe he was fleeing becauae he was an illegal or at least part of the group that had been part of this illegal hiring operation and was trying to flee.

So grabbing him would have been perfectly logical.

So before you get all worked up about 4 days in detention my answer is, under the circumstances its reasonable.

This is what the outcome is when illegals are allowed to enter and stay in the country with the support of sanctuary places.

Now I will state that if you raid a place and a person claims to be a citizen of the US then they should go to the front of the line for proofing. "Yeah, that's what they all say" shouldn't be in their vocabulary. It should be, step into my office and lets get the information we need to prove this as soon as possible.

BPPLEE · 2025-07-15T15:37:59-0500

GoldenBoy89 said:
Nowhere does it say the kids there were being put to work.

True. They are probably sex workers.

wing2000 · 2025-07-15T16:04:11-0500

rjs330 said:
If the stories arw true he wouldn't have been there if not for the actions of the leftists.

Also, apparently the illegals were trying to run away. This guy was seen trying to leave as well. This would have led agents to believe he was fleeing becauae he was an illegal or at least part of the group that had been part of this illegal hiring operation and was trying to flee.

So grabbing him would have been perfectly logical.

Sure, that's understanable.

rjs330 said:
So before you get all worked up about 4 days in detention my answer is, under the circumstances its reasonable.

No, detaining hime for 4 days is NOT resonable.

rjs330 said:
This is what the outcome is when illegals are allowed to enter and stay in the country with the support of sanctuary places.

No, this is the outcome of an intentional policy that rounds up as many hispanic looking people as possible without any regard for their citizenship, much less their contistutional rights.

rjs330 said:
Now I will state that if you raid a place and a person claims to be a citizen of the US then they should go to the front of the line for proofing. "Yeah, that's what they all say" shouldn't be in their vocabulary. It should be, step into my office and lets get the information we need to prove this as soon as possible.

Obviously, protecting the rights of legal citizens and residents is not a priority in Trump's ICE operations.

rjs330 · 2025-07-15T20:38:39-0500

wing2000 said:
No, detaining hime for 4 days is NOT resonable.

Under the circumstances it is. I would like to see the circumstances change. To do it better. To prioritize people who claim citizenship to be processed first. That might only take a day or two.

wing2000 said:
No, this is the outcome of an intentional policy that rounds up as many hispanic looking people as possible without any regard for their citizenship, much less their contistutional rights.

This is the outcome of allowing millions of illegals in. The law is being followed. You agreed that my explanation was understandable. If it is then you know good and well that just because someone claims to be a citizen doesn't mean they are. Especially when you are raiding a place that is full of illegals.

What constitutional right was violated?

wing2000 said:
Obviously, protecting the rights of legal citizens and residents is not a priority in Trump's ICE operations.

Again what rights were violated?

wing2000 · 2025-07-15T22:30:55-0500

rjs330 said:
Under the circumstances it is. I would like to see the circumstances change. To do it better. To prioritize people who claim citizenship to be processed first. That might only take a day or two.

...a couple hours at most.

rjs330 said:
This is the outcome of allowing millions of illegals in. The law is being followed. You agreed that my explanation was understandable. If it is then you know good and well that just because someone claims to be a citizen doesn't mean they are. Especially when you are raiding a place that is full of illegals.

What constitutional right was violated?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated.

BCP1928 · 2025-07-15T22:36:20-0500

Those children arrested at the weed farm are still being held incommunicado. I wonder how they are making out?

rjs330 · 2025-07-15T22:47:12-0500

wing2000 said:
.a couple hours at most.

And you know this how?

wing2000 said:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated.

They had a warrant for the raid. No rights were violated.

wing2000 · 2025-07-15T22:54:47-0500

rjs330 said:
And you know this how?

I don't know what systems ICE is using. However, in 2025, it's reasonable to assume a person's citizenship can ba verified within a couple of hours. The governments systems are known to be anitiquated...but even old systems should be able to determine that.

rjs330 said:
They had a warrant for the raid. No rights were violated.

The warrant does not cover detaining US citizens without probable cause for for days.

BCP1928 · 2025-07-15T23:46:18-0500

wing2000 said:
I don't know what systems ICE is using. However, in 2024, it's reasonable to assume a person's citizenship can ba verified within a couple of hours. The governments systems are known to be anitiquated...but even old systems should be able to determine that.

The warrant does not cover detaining US citizens without probable cause for for days.

Or children.

Pommer · 2025-07-16T00:21:00-0500

rjs330 said:
Under the circumstances it is. I would like to see the circumstances change. To do it better. To prioritize people who claim citizenship to be processed first. That might only take a day or two.

This is the outcome of allowing millions of illegals in. The law is being followed. You agreed that my explanation was understandable. If it is then you know good and well that just because someone claims to be a citizen doesn't mean they are. Especially when you are raiding a place that is full of illegals.

What constitutional right was violated?

Again what rights were violated?

14th Amendment said:
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

A citizen, being among a group of undocumented people isn’t (yet) a crime; ICE has zero authority over US Citizens. He shouldn’t have been detained for longer than it would reasonably take to verify his citizenship. (If THAT took four days, DOGE missed something.)

Hans Blaster · 2025-07-16T01:06:14-0500

wing2000 said:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated.

I read that somewhere...

ViaCrucis · 2025-07-16T05:43:27-0500

Hans Blaster said:
I read that somewhere...

Don't worry, reading will probably be outlawed in a couple years anyway.

-CryptoLutheran

wing2000 · 2025-07-16T08:16:28-0500

Hans Blaster said:
I read that somewhere...

It seems a lot of Americans need to read it for the first time.

rjs330 · 2025-07-16T09:49:43-0500

wing2000 said:
I don't know what systems ICE is using. However, in 2025, it's reasonable to assume a person's citizenship can ba verified within a couple of hours. The governments systems are known to be anitiquated...but even old systems should be able to determine that.

Then you dont really know what happenned. I do agree it took too long. I dont know the process. These days illegals are getting fake IDs including social security numbers. They can obtain drivers licenses etc. And depending on the circumstances and when they started the investigation into his claim it may have taken several days because as we know most government services are not open on holidays and weekends. So I dont KNOW how long it takes. If sone makes a citizenship claim they should be put in the front of the line. And then it takes how long it takes.

wing2000 said:
The warrant does not cover detaining US citizens without probable cause for for days.

The warrant is probable cause. And his flight along with the illegals that were there and the protestors made it even more so.

Also, apparently the illegals were trying to run away. This guy was seen trying to leave as well. This would have led agents to believe he was fleeing becauae he was an illegal or at least part of the group that had been part of this illegal hiring operation and was trying to flee. Don't forget who they picked up. It is certainly reasonable to believe this guy also may have been a part of the operation of exploiting children.

"On July 10, 2025, federal law enforcement officers executed criminal warrant operations at marijuana grow sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo. As of July 14, at least 14 migrant children have been rescued from potential exploitation, forced labor and human trafficking. ICE has transferred 10 of the children who are unaccompanied to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.(HHS).

Federal officers also arrested at least 361 illegal aliens from both sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo. ICE and CBP arrested violent and dangerous criminal illegal aliens convicted of rape, child molestation and kidnapping during the operation who were working at the marijuana site,"

This alone is probable cause for detainment. Did it take too long to sort him out? Possibly. Due to the timing and circumstances maybe not.

Right now everyone is just speculating.

rjs330 · 2025-07-16T09:58:48-0500

BCP1928 said:
Or children.

If the children were illegal immigrants it does. It also appears they may have been victims of child trafficking or illegal labor. Why on earth would you say tgey shouldnt be picked up or rescued. They were unaccompanied minors. Of course they should have been picked up. It should be determined who they are, why they were there and what they were doing. Where are their parents? You cant determine any of that if you dont pick them up. They were turned over to the proper agency.

Federal officers also arrested at least 361 illegal aliens from both sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo. ICE and CBP arrested violent and dangerous criminal illegal aliens convicted of rape, child molestation and kidnapping during the operation who were working at the marijuana site,

DHS Releases Update on Criminal Illegal Aliens Arrested, Children Rescued During Marijuana Grow Site Operation | Homeland Security

DHS released the following update regarding U.S. Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) operation at two marijuana grow sites in California.

www.dhs.gov

essentialsaltes · 2025-07-16T14:48:35-0500

essentialsaltes said:
No, they were counting charges for hiring illegals, not charges for child labor.

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