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Is witchcraft/occult and demons real?

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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.

I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.
 
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The witchcraft in Harry Potter is like the what's seen in the Wizard of Oz. Actual witchcraft isn't like that at all. Needless to say real witches can't do what's done in Harry Potter. Real witches are just plane ol muggles with no supernatural powers.

Contacting the dead and fortune telling is a con job. What they learn in that regard is how to trick people.

Now demons are real and they probably influence certain things like talking to a spirit by way of a Ouija board, or whatever else someone is using to create deception. So basically what it amounts to is either human deception or demonic deception.

I think most witches, wiccans, or whatever mainly just practice imaginary mumbo jumbo. A lot of it comes down to worshipping the creation rather than the Creator.

They can probably create potions that have actual effects on people, but that's chemistry rather than magic.
 
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Anything about the occult plays right into the hands of Satan and darkness. It's not of the light of Christ. Satan has lying wonders, deception on his side. Jesus the light of truth, and the way, and life. Occultism opens a door to the demonic that you really don't want in your life as a Christian man or woman. It's also not God or biblically supported to do so. We are to rebuke that darkness.
 
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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.

I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.
It one puts energy into such things most likely it will yield results. Nothing happens unless our Father allows it.
Blessings
 
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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.

I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.
First, is the command of God, which is not to mess with such. That's the first and foremost thing: God said don't do it, so don't do it.

Second, practicing magic is an appeal to something other than God. The very real question to ask is if such things be, then by what power?

Third, there can be something there that's not of God. That alone makes it bad. It's best to avoid such.

Here's something to consider, something told to me by a Christian: She had just become a convert to Christ when she heard a screech owl nearby. There was a local superstition of how to make a screech owl stop hollering and she briefly considered it, but then concluded that was in the same category as trying to work magic. I think she might have pointed out that was trusting in the superstition rather than God. Even though I'm convinced the superstition has no effect on screech owls, the very act is saying "I trust this more than I trust God."

On Harry Potter: Our children were young during the Harry Potter craze, and we thought it best not to go there. After one was grown, they told us they had read the books and didn't think they were bad. I blew their mind when I agreed. The problem wasn't so much the books as the interest in such that it can generate, especially among those too young to realize that it can be a dangerous thing. During the height of the Harry Potter popularity, a retail store sold a wand-making tie-in that also included "spells" to say over it. That went beyond the book and I used it as an example of why we didn't have Harry Potter books in our house when they were young. It wasn't the books as much as where it could lead.

Really, this isn't something that should not be played around with. Whether someone believes something is there or not, at the very least it causes a trust in something other than God.
 
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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.

I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.

Honestly, I can't say. I don't play with those things. But from a purely rational tendency that I have, I think the alleged 'power' of those sundry occult items comes from their false promise of providing forms of empowerment and/or supernatural experience which many are craving, failing to be found in a positive form within the Christian Church.

Personally, I think the biggest problem comes in that these things waste people's time and all too easily draws their leisure and desires away from focusing on the person of Jesus Christ.

However..................................if any of these things just happens to 'work' while being used, and if it becomes obviously the case, then I'd be hastily making for an exit at that point rather than trudging on further into those experiences. You've tapped into something that you'll eventually wish you hadn't.

As for Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Doctor Strange and other fictitious fantasy, I think these can be seen as just what they are and they won't do anything other than entertain.
 
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I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?
My atheist son was playing with a ouija board with three other mates when he was lifted up in the air feet no longer touching the ground and thrown violently against the wall by an invisible force , so what was that?

His answer to me was , well it could have been anything dad , so I said well give me one thing of anything son and of course he couldn't....:doh:

Being an atheist he doesn't believe in demons but he doesn't play with ouija boards anymore either...lol
 
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I believe demons are very real and certain activities can open a portal to them.

Trust in God and call upon Jesus!
 
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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.

I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.
If one believes scripture they have to believe demons are real.Jesus dealt with them, the apostles dealt with them, Jesus said the church would have to deal with them. One of satans biggest lies is that he and his demon friends do not exist.
 
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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.
No, I do not believe these work.

So are demons real?
They may be an ancient personification of mental illness like schizophrenia, of epilepsy or of evil inclinations and desires ("satan is lurking around"), of trials etc. But I am not against the idea that some evil spiritual beings as such exist. So it can be both, depending on the usage.

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.
Generally, even fiction can be evil. Regarding Harry Potter, I liked the first movies, the last ones were too dark and less fun for me.
 
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I don't think you find "witchcraft is supernatural" in the Bible. People who practice witchcraft aren't practicing the supernatrual. Witchcraft is manipulating people to lead them away from the God of the Bible. They do this by feeding on people's emotions & telling them what they want to hear. In Bible times, a witch was someone who spoke for a false god. Today they would tell you to 'follow your heart'. The idea a witch is someone who interacts w/ the world supernaturally is a pagan idea to distract people away from what witchcraft actually is so they say "ha ha, you believe in witches!" or "witches are just innocent & made-up"

Another example is sorcery. I've heard what the word for sorcery actually is in the Bible is someone uses drugs. It's not casting a magic spell to turn dirt into a frog. That's what Hollywood says to decieve you.

I do believe tho witches & sorcererors are being influenced by demons, sometimes willingly & knowingly.

Stuff like Harry Potter - and other "innocent" things are so dangerous b/c they're seen as innocent but distract people from the Lord & teach anti-Biblical concepts. In that sense it is witchcraft

Witches & sorcerers didn't disappear after the Bible ended!
 
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I don't think you find "witchcraft is supernatural" in the Bible. People who practice witchcraft aren't practicing the supernatrual. Witchcraft is manipulating people to lead them away from the God of the Bible. They do this by feeding on people's emotions & telling them what they want to hear. In Bible times, a witch was someone who spoke for a false god. Today they would tell you to 'follow your heart'. The idea a witch is someone who interacts w/ the world supernaturally is a pagan idea to distract people away from what witchcraft actually is so they say "ha ha, you believe in witches!" or "witches are just innocent & made-up"

Another example is sorcery. I've heard what the word for sorcery actually is in the Bible is someone uses drugs. It's not casting a magic spell to turn dirt into a frog. That's what Hollywood says to decieve you.

I do believe tho witches & sorcererors are being influenced by demons, sometimes willingly & knowingly.

Stuff like Harry Potter - and other "innocent" things are so dangerous b/c they're seen as innocent but distract people from the Lord & teach anti-Biblical concepts. In that sense it is witchcraft

Witches & sorcerers didn't disappear after the Bible ended!
You couldn’t be more wrong!
Exodus 7:10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the Lord had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
Read on into Exodus 8 and you will see even more. Yes there is sometimes supernatural from evil sources. Satan does have powers but God has more. How is turning dirt into a frog different from turning a rod into a serpent? You underestimate what evil forces can do!
 
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You couldn’t be more wrong!
Exodus 7:10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the Lord had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods. Read on into Exodus 8 and you will see even more. Yes there is sometimes supernatural from evil sources. Satan does have powers but God has more. How is turning dirt into a frog different from turning a rod into a serpent? You underestimate what evil forces can do!
Thank you for finishing my post. I was going to bring up that example. I don’t doubt evil does work supernaturally. But more often it does not. It hides itself.
 
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BTW the NIRV (my favourite translation - using plain language)
Exodus 7:11
Then Pharaoh sent for wise men and people who do evil magic. By doing their magic tricks, the Egyptian magicians did the same things Aaron had done.
 
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Do Christians believe that witchcraft/occult really works? i.e. ouija boards, psychics, palm readers, tarot cards, black magic, white magic, seances, contacting the dead, new age spirituality, etc.

I've heard Christians say that demons can allow it to work. So are demons real?

Some Christian parents don't allow their children to read/watch Harry Potter - perhaps because they think there is some kind of reality to witchcraft.
 
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John,
Yes it’s real. The first thing that Jesus hugely warned me about was false teaching and witchcraft.
They lived all over the place where I lived and came after me horribly. It was terrifying as I never knew that stuff ever existed.
In the 1990’s, our government sandblasted the Ten Commandments off of all public buildings, so God lifted his hand of protection from USA and this country was given to a spirit of witchcraft. September 11th 2001 happened, by the way.
I met Jesus in 2017...
 
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