Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

Strong in Him · Thursday at 8:46 AM

Apple Sky said:
This is Nonsense.

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You want me to explain why these are nonsense?? They are obviously some kind of spoof/joke/not meant to be taken seriously.
In the first one, the guy looks as though he is in a car - cars don't fly so there is no chance whatsoever of getting to the moon in one.
The 2nd one is a spoof of the "you are here" information signs that give folk their whereabouts. Even if that was meant to be a serious map, it would be useless in space. You might as well say "turn left at the next star and it's the 4th constellation on the right.
I don't know what the 3rd one's supposed to be - maybe someone making a rocket from cardboard boxes? Obviously, space rockets are made of different materials.

So yes, they're nonsense - what were you hoping to prove?

Strong in Him · Thursday at 8:50 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes one image,

One image that was explained to you, you describe as "informative" and then repost it saying it is nonsense.
Either you have such a short memory that you didn't realise it had already been explained or you had some other reason for acting as if you'd never seen it before.

Apple Sky · Thursday at 8:51 AM

Apple Sky said:
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David Lamb said:
Can you give me some examples of the sort of contradiction you mean,

I have given these before.

Apple Sky · Thursday at 8:53 AM

Strong in Him said:
You want me to explain why these are nonsense?? They are obviously some kind of spoof/joke/not meant to be taken seriously.
In the first one, the guy looks as though he is in a car - cars don't fly so there is no chance whatsoever of getting to the moon in one.
The 2nd one is a spoof of the "you are here" information signs that give folk their whereabouts. Even if that was meant to be a serious map, it would be useless in space. You might as well say "turn left at the next star and it's the 4th constellation on the right.
I don't know what the 3rd one's supposed to be - maybe someone making a rocket from cardboard boxes? Obviously, space rockets are made of different materials.

So yes, they're nonsense - what were you hoping to prove?

Images that we are supposed to believe to be true.

Strong in Him · Thursday at 8:55 AM

Apple Sky said:
Images that we are supposed to believe to be true.

Who says we are "supposed to believe" they are true?
Were they in textbooks, or scientific papers explaining the moon landings? No - probably nicked from YouTube again.

Strong in Him · Thursday at 9:04 AM

Apple Sky said:
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Yes - and we have said before that the references very often do not even mention the shape of the earth; far less prove it.

The last time you posted this, I quoted one of the statements: "universe is complete, Genesis 2:1." I said that the universe being complete had nothing to do with what shape the earth is.
Your reply? "The word 'universe' is not in the Bible. But the statement "the universe is complete" was made by the person who produced the poster. So your argument is with them for using a word which isn't in the Bible.
That, and the fact that other verses don't say what you think they do, negates your argument.

Another own goal.

RDKirk · Thursday at 9:49 AM

Augustine of Hippo talked about the apparent conflict between science in The Literal Meaning of Genesis about 400 AD.

His key point was that scripture should not be interpreted in a way that contradicts what is clearly known from reason or experience. When there appears to be a conflict between scientific knowledge and the Bible, Augustine urged humility and caution in biblical interpretation:

“Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world… Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an unbeliever to hear a Christian… talking nonsense on these topics... If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven?”

trophy33 · Thursday at 9:52 AM

RDKirk said:
Augustine of Hippo talked about the apparent conflict between science in The Literal Meaning of Genesis about 400 AD.

His key point was that scripture should not be interpreted in a way that contradicts what is clearly known from reason or experience. When there appears to be a conflict between scientific knowledge and the Bible, Augustine urged humility and caution in biblical interpretation:

Yes, exactly my view. When somebody preaches Christ and with it, in the same time, that our earth is flat or that we lived with dinosaurs or any other similar nonsense... the credibility of the message goes down rapidly.

David Lamb · Friday at 1:36 AM

Apple Sky said:
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I have given these before.

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Yes, you have. And you have received many replies about them. For a start, many of the headings have nothing to do with the earth's shape, for example: "Earth Created Before the Sun," "Universe is Complete," "Earth Measurements Unknown," "Earth Measured With a Line," (why cannot a line measure around a globe?) "Paths are Straight Not Curved," "Earth Has Corners," (discs don't have corners - do you believe the earth is a flat square now?) "Everyone Sees Jesus" (That requires something miraculous to happen whether the earth is flat or a globe - when an aeroplane is flying over France, you cannot see it in Wales), "New Jerusalem, the Huge Cube," "Creation Worshippers," and "God's Word is Always Faithful and True." Of the remaining headings, none of them actually state the shape of the earth (well, some of the headings do, but the verses quoted from the bible don't.)

David Lamb · Friday at 1:49 AM

Apple Sky said:
Images that we are supposed to believe to be true.

Who is expecting us to believe that somebody really drove a car into space?

Apple Sky · Friday at 2:10 AM

David Lamb said:
Who is expecting us to believe that somebody really drove a car into space?

Elon Musk, didn't drive it into to space he allegedly launched a Tesla into space.

Tesla Roadster Launched Into Space 2 Years Ago Floats Past ...

In February 2018, Elon Musk's SpaceX launched a Tesla Roadster into space as a dummy payload for the Falcon Heavy rocket's first test flight. The cherry-red Roadster, driven by a mannequin named Starman, is currently in orbit around the sun. The launch was a publicity stunt, but it also

^_^

David Lamb · Friday at 2:47 AM

Apple Sky said:
Elon Musk, didn't drive it into to space he allegedly launched a Tesla into space.

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In February 2018, Elon Musk's SpaceX launched a Tesla Roadster into space as a dummy payload for the Falcon Heavy rocket's first test flight. The cherry-red Roadster, driven by a mannequin named Starman, is currently in orbit around the sun. The launch was a publicity stunt, but it also

But the car didn't drive into space, nor did Elon Musk claim that it did. The wording of your link says that the car was the cargo ("dummy payload") on board a space rocket:

"Elon Musk's SpaceX launched a Tesla Roadster into space as a dummy payload for the Falcon Heavy rocket's first test flight. "

Apple Sky · Friday at 3:22 AM

David Lamb said:
The wording of your link says that the car was the cargo ("dummy payload") on board a space rocket:

Correct

SimplyMe · Friday at 1:16 PM

Apple Sky said:
Correct

I'm not quite sure I understand your disbelief about Elon Musk putting a "car" into space. I put car in quotes because, while it had been one of his original Tesla Roadsters, before launching it he removed the motors, the battery, and anything else that wasn't needed or would cause an issue in space.

He was doing a rocket booster test and, as such, needed some type of payload to launch, and decided the best thing to do would be both a huge vanity project, as well as a great advertisement for his car company. Since the car wasn't going to be drivable again anyway, he mounted a type of selfie stick to the car, as well as several other cameras, so he could show video from the car while it was in space. Of course, the car no longer communicates, as the power modules were depleted. At the same time, it can still be tracked from Earth and, in something of an embarrassing incident, the Minor Planet Center accidentally labeled it as an asteroid (which they've since deleted).

RDKirk · Friday at 2:49 PM

SimplyMe said:
At the same time, it can still be tracked from Earth and, in something of an embarrassing incident, the Minor Planet Center accidentally labeled it as an asteroid (which they've since deleted).

It's more practically accurate to label it an asteroid than a satellite or anything else.

Apple Sky · Saturday at 1:14 AM

SimplyMe said:
I'm not quite sure I understand your disbelief about Elon Musk putting a "car" into space. I put car in quotes because, while it had been one of his original Tesla Roadsters, before launching it he removed the motors, the battery, and anything else that wasn't needed or would cause an issue in space.

He was doing a rocket booster test and, as such, needed some type of payload to launch, and decided the best thing to do would be both a huge vanity project, as well as a great advertisement for his car company. Since the car wasn't going to be drivable again anyway, he mounted a type of selfie stick to the car, as well as several other cameras, so he could show video from the car while it was in space. Of course, the car no longer communicates, as the power modules were depleted. At the same time, it can still be tracked from Earth and, in something of an embarrassing incident, the Minor Planet Center accidentally labeled it as an asteroid (which they've since deleted).

Yes, OK each to his own. ^_^

Strong in Him · Saturday at 1:49 AM

Apple Sky said:
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It seems to be you who is posting ridiculous posters and expecting us to believe that they are true.

SimplyMe · Saturday at 11:41 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes, OK each to his own.

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That isn't much of an argument -- space is fake because CGI has gotten much better? Though, honestly, that Mars clip doesn't even require CGI -- there are various spots in the American West that look like Mars (other than maybe coloring the sky).

But while we are at it, James Irwin, the 8th person to walk on the moon, is now a Born Again Christian. So do you deny his testimony or just his consistent statements that he did walk on the moon and saw a globe Earth from space? Why would he continue the alleged lie after becoming a committed Christian?

Strong in Him · Saturday at 12:01 PM

SimplyMe said:
But while we are at it, James Irwin, the 8th person to walk on the moon, is now a Born Again Christian. So do you deny his testimony or just his consistent statements that he did walk on the moon and saw a globe Earth from space? Why would he continue the alleged lie after becoming a committed Christian?

Sadly, she probably will.
Charles Duke is also a Christian, his testimony is on YouTube and Apple Sky said that she once found it very moving - so much so that she said that Flat Earth was nonsense, repented for having doubted the astronauts and asked for God's help in sticking to her new beliefs in a globe earth.
Then she changed her mind again and started calling Charles Duke a liar.

RDKirk · Saturday at 2:12 PM

Strong in Him said:
Sadly, she probably will.
Charles Duke is also a Christian, his testimony is on YouTube and Apple Sky said that she once found it very moving - so much so that she said that Flat Earth was nonsense, repented for having doubted the astronauts and asked for God's help in sticking to her new beliefs in a globe earth.
Then she changed her mind again and started calling Charles Duke a liar.

You probably know that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin performed a holy communion on the moon before they stepped out the first time.

The first two men on the moon were devout enough to sneak communion elements aboard, devout enough to communion with Jesus on another world.

And that was all done as a lie?

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