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Is This The New Normal?
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Like I wrote, he reneged on his support for a "clean DACA" bill.
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And yet you made this thread asking “is this the new normal?” Along side footage with no context, on a public forum. So it seems like you are trying to sway someone’s opinion.
I wonder what this ambiguous “it” I’m supposed to get is. I guess I’m not getting an answer to that either.
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This a result of cause and effect. Action and reaction.
The Democrats caused an extraordinary problem by enabling an enormous amount of people to enter the country illegally and unvetted.
And now the Republicans are using extraordinary measures to fix the extraordinary problem.
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Yes, there you go. A final solution to the Democrat problem.
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So, even after being asked, you never looked it up. I see.
According to Politifact's fact checker, there is a hierarchy of persons involved in the security of the Capitol. There is a sergeants-at-arms for the House and one for the Senate. The Sergeant-at-Arms for the senate reported (at the time) to Chuck Schumer, and the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House reported (at the time) to Nancy Pelosi (which I stated in my post). The Sergeants-at-Arms are members of the Capitol Police (which I stated).
Twice, prior to January 6, President Trump informed Nancy Pelosi that he heard there was going to be a large crowd gathering in Washington and offered the National Guard for protection. Twice. He needed to make that offer, and he did. Twice. Nancy Pelosi and the Sergeant-at-Arms refused citing "optics". We see what happened. Was she solely responsible, no. That's ludicrous, but had she accepted the National Guard when it was offered, this would not have happened.
No, US Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility
I mistakenly implied that she, alone was in charge of Capitol security, and that was an error. She is part of the security hierarchy and as such, had the right to accept use of the National Guard when it was offered.
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Trump’s claim that Pelosi turned down National Guard help on Jan. 6 is ‘just fantasy’ - The New Bedford Light
The story has been deemed false and debunked repeatedly since early 2021, including during the 2024 campaign.
newbedfordlight.org
But feel free to provide documentation of your version of events.
From a source more reliable than Donald Trump, please.
-- A2SG, few are less reliable.....
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So the left, with all their mind-reading abilities, has just decided that they don’t believe Trump offered the National Guard. However, the Politifact page, itself, states they refused the offer due to optics. You can’t have it both ways.Trump’s claim that Pelosi turned down National Guard help on Jan. 6 is ‘just fantasy’ - The New Bedford Light
The story has been deemed false and debunked repeatedly since early 2021, including during the 2024 campaign.
But feel free to provide documentation of your version of events.
From a source more reliable than Donald Trump, please.
-- A2SG, few are less reliable.....
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Around 2014-2915 ICE arrested a lot of illegals.
ICE Arrests 2,000 'Worst Of The Worst Criminals'
The latest sweep of fugitive immigrants was the fifth major operation by U.S. authorities since 2011.
www.ibtimes.com
They conducted raids at businesses. They arrested people who were violent criminals, gang members and over half arrested were simply here illegally. The photo in the paper sh I we'd them without masks. There were not riots, there were no attacks on tge agents. There was no one shooting at them. Their families were not threatened.
In just January 2025 ICE conducted raids. The vast majority of agents weren't wearing masks and weren't threatened, attacked neither were their families. Here is an article showing a number of photos of of them.
ICE arrests over 20 during NYC raids, including suspected gang leader: Details
Now fast forward. ICE agents have been attacked, threatened, assaulted, and their families have also been threatened.
Todd Lyons, the acting Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), clarified on Monday that ICE agents and officers routinely wear face due to the recently announced increase in threats to federal immigration officials, including to their spouses and family members.
ICE Director Confirms Agents Now Wearing Masks amid 400 Percent Increase in Threats - Tennessee Star
So now you know. If the anarchists, leftists and illegals would have left them and their families alone like they used to, masks would not be needed.
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Around 2014-2915 ICE arrested a lot of illegals.
ICE Arrests 2,000 'Worst Of The Worst Criminals'
The latest sweep of fugitive immigrants was the fifth major operation by U.S. authorities since 2011.
They conducted raids at businesses. They arrested people who were violent criminals, gang members and over half arrested were simply here illegally. The photo in the paper sh I we'd them without masks. There were not riots, there were no attacks on tge agents. There was no one shooting at them. Their families were not threatened.
In just January 2025 ICE conducted raids. The vast majority of agents weren't wearing masks and weren't threatened, attacked neither were their families. Here is an article showing a number of photos of of them.
ICE arrests over 20 during NYC raids, including suspected gang leader: Details
Now fast forward. ICE agents have been attacked, threatened, assaulted, and their families have also been threatened.
Todd Lyons, the acting Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), clarified on Monday that ICE agents and officers routinely wear face due to the recently announced increase in threats to federal immigration officials, including to their spouses and family members.
ICE Director Confirms Agents Now Wearing Masks amid 400 Percent Increase in Threats - Tennessee Star
So now you know. If the anarchists, leftists and illegals would have left them and their families alone like they used to, masks would not be needed.
If American citizens approve of federal agents wearing masks, accompanied by the military, and arresting people without a warrant, it would indicate a shift away from democratic practices toward more authoritarian governance.
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Holy smokes, when are you going to acknowledge your whole warrant shtick is just patently false? LE has ALWAYS been able to arrest without a warrant.
If American citizens are attacking and threatening agents and their families it would indicate a shift away from democratic practices toward a more anarchist state.
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Your suggestion that “democratic practices” are defined by the Democrats is humorous considering that the whole last administration was committing treason with their unelected shadow government.
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