EU's anti-Christian report is sign of slide into 'godlessness,' politician warns

Michie · Thursday at 4:39 PM

Report described as 'an openly anti-Christian piece of work' funded by Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, George Soros

A Hungarian official has taken aim at progressive activists within the European Union, accusing them of authoring a report that attacks Christianity and seeks to diminish its influence.

The European Parliamentary Forum for Sexual and Reproductive Rights (EPF) has published a report claiming that Europe is suffering from a rise in religious “anti-feminist” groups. The report was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and George Soros.

Hungarian Ministerial Commissioner, Bernadett Petri, said the report was yet more evidence of the EU’s slide into godlessness. Speaking to Hungary Today,she described it as “an openly anti-Christian piece of work.”

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EU's anti-Christian report is sign of slide into 'godlessness,' politician warns

A Hungarian official has taken aim at progressive activists within the European Union, accusing them of authoring a report that attacks Christianity and seeks to diminish its influence

www.christianpost.com

RileyG · Friday at 9:15 PM

ugh, that's too bad!

Canuckster · Friday at 10:22 PM

And of course, "godless" Canadian govt is openly disengaging with America and has signed an agreement with the EU 2 weeks ago to be closely aligned on defense and industrial policy. Minister of industry Mélanie Joly compares Canada’s former counter tariff response to the US with communist China, even though China has signed a trade agreement with the US and China has imposed counter tariffs on Canada, which include 100% tariffs on canola oil and peas, 25% tariffs on pork and aquatic products and 25% on steel in retaliation for Canada’s tariffs on Chinese EVs and steel.

Canada’s dishonesty, open disengagement with the US and alliances with EU and praises of communist China are a threat to US national security in the North American region and if the Canadian govt doesn’t soon change its tone things could get ugly.

trophy33 · 2025-07-12T02:58:50-0500

Christianpost often confuses Christianity and American conservative politics. Similarly to Fox News.

@Michie what does the report say against the Nicene Creed (which is how Christianity is defined on this forum)? Quote specifically.

John G. · 2025-07-12T06:01:40-0500

trophy33 said:
@Michie what does the report say against the Nicene Creed (which is how Christianity is defined on this forum)? Quote specifically.

@Trophy: the report itself costs €25. Pay it, publish it and maybe Michie can answer your question?
Btw, don't limit yourself to the Nicene Creed. Christianity's position on "reproductive rights" - which the report strenuously defends - is pretty much monolithic.

Tuur · 2025-07-12T06:17:48-0500

trophy33 said:
Christianpost often confuses Christianity and American conservative politics. Similarly to Fox News.

@Michie what does the report say against the Nicene Creed (which is how Christianity is defined on this forum)? Quote specifically.

?
Someone doesn't need to trash the Nicene Creed to be anti-Christian. Odd are those who have physically attacked Christians in various countries this year didn't first give them a questionnaire on doctrine.

trophy33 · 2025-07-12T06:22:08-0500

John G. said:
@Trophy: the report itself costs €25. Pay it, publish it and maybe Michie can answer your question?

Why should I pay for it? I did not come with the claims.

John G. said:
Btw, don't limit yourself to the Nicene Creed. Christianity's position on "reproductive rights" - which the report strenuously defends - is pretty much monolithic.

Do you know that the report says?

trophy33 · 2025-07-12T06:22:30-0500

Tuur said:
?
Someone doesn't need to trash the Nicene Creed to be anti-Christian. Odd are those who have physically attacked Christians in various countries this year didn't first give them a questionnaire on doctrine.

Do you even know what the report says?

Tuur · 2025-07-12T06:54:28-0500

Canuckster said:
And of course, "godless" Canadian govt is openly disengaging with America and has signed an agreement with the EU 2 weeks ago to be closely aligned on defense and industrial policy. Minister of industry Mélanie Joly compares Canada’s former counter tariff response to the US with communist China, even though China has signed a trade agreement with the US and China has imposed counter tariffs on Canada, which include 100% tariffs on canola oil and peas, 25% tariffs on pork and aquatic products and 25% on steel in retaliation for Canada’s tariffs on Chinese EVs and steel.

Canada’s dishonesty, open disengagement with the US and alliances with EU and praises of communist China are a threat to US national security in the North American region and if the Canadian govt doesn’t soon change its tone things could get ugly.

Canada is Canada. It's shocking to some, but it's not a colder version of the US. They chose not to join in the American Revolution; saw US action on their soil in that war and the War of 1812; and, per Paul Harvey's The Rest of the Story, both countries had at one point made contingency plans on invading the other. Canada acts as it deems best for Canadian interests. It might even start to break apart - tensions between Alberta and the rest of Canada seem high right now, and decades ago, Quebec voted down secession by less than 1%.

If Canada is more at home with Europeans, what of it? If they want to align with China, so be it. And, unfortunately, if they wish to curtail civil liberties of Canadians, that's their business. Just because we share a long border doesn't mean we have to be friends, or would even want to be.

Tuur · 2025-07-12T06:59:43-0500

trophy33 said:
Do you even know what the report says?

I know that those who oppose Christianity do not first go:

"I say there, old chap: What do you think of the Nicene Creed? Don't want to make a mistake, you know."

Uh-uh.

trophy33 · 2025-07-12T07:01:41-0500

Tuur said:
I know that those who oppose Christianity do not first go:

"I say there, old chap: What do you think of the Nicene Creed? Don't want to make a mistake, you know."

Uh-uh.

I am not interested in a vague conversation like "Christians like blue color, somebody criticizes blue color, therefore he is anti-Christian." Which is a logical fallacy.

I am interested in how is this report anti-Christian and how it leads to godlessness.

mindlight · 2025-07-12T08:16:53-0500

I found a list of direct links to the EPF (European Parliamentary Forum for Sexual & Reproductive Rights) report from Thursday here:

The Next Wave: How Religious Extremism Is Regaining Power but I am not going to pay 25 Euros to read drivel I disagree with.
Also here:

Anti-gender research

Regressive forces and ultra-conservative religious actors are trying to undo decades of human rights advances and impose a harmful worldview about gender roles in family and public lives. While the rise of ultra-conservatism in Europe has been apparent for several years, precisely how these...

www.epfweb.org

The basic challenge here is to Article 10 & 11 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, which guarantee freedom of expression and worship. It is hard to see how this EU-funded report is supporting these fundamental rights. Note that there is no similar guarantee of abortion and gay rights in the EU Charter so and these vary across member states. So why is the EU as a whole paying for such controversial reports? Maybe the funding for the EPF needs reviewing as it appears to be supportive of a left-wing ideological radicalism that is out of touch with natural law and Christian (indeed also conservative Hindu and Muslim) values. But the EU does argue for equality of treatment regardless of sexuality and advocates against discrimination. These articles would have to be based on these principles to gain funding or legitimacy. The funding of conservative groups addresses a major imbalance in such funding across Europe, as there is more funding for Feminist and LGTBQ groups.

Christianity Today provided the original critique, which the Christian Post then picked up on;

EU takes aim at 'extremist' anti-LGBT Christians

The EU is becoming increasingly anti-Christian

www.christiantoday.com

Secular reports like this one from the godless ODI mirror the basic argument that conservative Muslims, Hindus and Christians pose a challenge to women's "rights" and misuse freedom of religion principles to support their opinions.

https://media.odi.org/documents/ODI_Womens_Movements_Report.pdf

trophy33 · 2025-07-12T08:40:15-0500

mindlight said:
The basic challenge here is to Article 10 & 11 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, which guarantee freedom of expression and worship...

Can you demonstrate exactly how this report challenges the freedom of expression and worship?

mindlight said:
It is hard to see how this EU-funded report... So why is the EU as a whole paying for such controversial reports?

So, according to you, the EU paid/funded the report?

mindlight · 2025-07-12T09:02:05-0500

trophy33 said:
Can you demonstrate exactly how this report challenges the freedom of expression and worship?

So, according to you, the EU paid/funded the report?

Without reading it, no, have you paid for it? But from what people have said, it argues a counter-conservative viewpoint that is detrimental to the reputation of the church in Europe and directly affirms a godless agenda. Pushed to an extreme, this would contradict Articles 10 & 11 of the EU charter, but no doubt the language of the report is diplomatic and not directly confrontational, even if its meaning is clear. The EU indirectly funds the EPF through its MEPs and by grants and project income - that is, an illegitimate use of funds.

trophy33 · 2025-07-12T09:10:14-0500

mindlight said:
Without reading it, no, have you paid for it? But from what people have said, it argues a counter-conservative viewpoint that is detrimental to the reputation of the church in Europe and directly affirms a godless agenda. Pushed to an extreme, this would contradict Articles 10 & 11 of the EU charter, but no doubt the language of the report is diplomatic and not directly confrontational, even if its meaning is clear. The EU indirectly funds the EPF through its MEPs and by grants and project income - that is, an illegitimate use of funds.

OK, this thread is a circus. Nobody knows anything, nobody read it.

Just usual "conservative Christians media" hysteria.

mindlight · 2025-07-12T09:24:04-0500

trophy33 said:
OK, this thread is a circus. Nobody knows anything, nobody read it.

Just usual "conservative Christians media" hysteria.

As the ODI link I shared showed, the gist of such reports and discussions is already painfully clear and out there. It is not hysterical to be opposed to either abortion or the active promotion of LGBTQ at the expense of Christian values. Nor is it hysterical to defend the global-historical understanding of gender, marriage, and sexuality advocated for by all the main religions, and therefore the majority of the global population, let alone the church.

Tuur · 2025-07-12T10:58:08-0500

trophy33 said:
OK, this thread is a circus. Nobody knows anything, nobody read it.

Just usual "conservative Christians media" hysteria.

Oh? Conservative politically or conservative theologically? A theologically liberal Christian can be politically conservative, and a theologically conservative Christian and be politically liberal.

The problem with this thread is that if we dare to go into detail why certain things indicate an anti-Christian bias, that would cover things forbidden to discuss on CF.

Canuckster · 2025-07-12T11:25:57-0500

Tuur said:
Canada is Canada. .... Just because we share a long border doesn't mean we have to be friends, or would even want to be.

Canada is not Canada.... Canada has fallen into the hands of global communism. It’s not a question about having to be friends with Canada, it’s a question of sharing a long border with a fallen Canada that has become a threat to US national security. America can not share a long border with global communism, nor can they trust global communists and share military intelligence, nor can they tolerate global communists as northern neighbours. So instead of using the power of the US military to change the situation, they’re using the power of trade. China loving communist Canada and the EU are now viewed as a single entity that is posing a threat to US national security, and Trump has just recently taken similar action towards the EU, as he’s taken towards Canada.

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