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Guy From Medina Pride Came Back...

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Howdy! Whelp, the guy from the last video I posted telling me not to preach hate to my kids came back. I asked him what was wrong with Jesus and he hand a mouthful to say... Thoughts on how you would have handled it?
 

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Howdy! Whelp, the guy from the last video I posted telling me not to preach hate to my kids came back. I asked him what was wrong with Jesus and he hand a mouthful to say... Thoughts on how you would have handled it?
I'ld have told him the truth, that no Christian is any of the things he cited.
It is the false-Christians who continue to commit sin after their conversion.
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." (1 John 2:19)
 
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I don't think there's anything you could have done better, in that setting.

Some of his points are legit. For example, Christians in recent centuries did own slaves, and I've seen patriarchy and misogyny even in modern Christians. There's a complicated conversation that one can have -- talking about how God reveals God's self in the context of different cultures, and how God seems to teach humankind in small steps, and how sometimes it's challenging for people to sort out which bits of early Christian practice were simply reflecting their culture's assumptions and which bits were direct teachings from God. But it requires a long span of time and patience to have that conversation -- maybe an hour, maybe multiple hours or more -- and it requires that both parties be ready to listen to each other with an open mind. A quick exchange on a street corner isn't going to be a good setting for a nuanced conversation.

What he doesn't say explicitly is that because you were standing at the entrance to a Pride festival, he may have assumed you were there to communicate an anti-gay message. If that's his perception, then that will tend to shut down the possibility of honest conversation. Perhaps a more neutral setting would be a more productive place for your message -- a table at a farmer's market or community fair, for example, where it's clear that you're not condemning the festival itself, but are just there to tell people that Jesus loves them and invites them into communion with him.

I'm pleased that you're going out into places where people are to meet people and tell them about your faith. It's easier, and more comfortable, to sit inside a church building and wait for people to come to us, but it's out in the world where we have the opportunities to listen to people's stories and minister to their needs.
 
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I'ld have told him the truth, that no Christian is any of the things he cited.
It is the false-Christians who continue to commit sin after their conversion.
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." (1 John 2:19)

Thanks!! And you're so right. So many people will do things in the "name of" Christianity but not actually be Christians.

I don't think there's anything you could have done better, in that setting.

Some of his points are legit. For example, Christians in recent centuries did own slaves, and I've seen patriarchy and misogyny even in modern Christians. There's a complicated conversation that one can have -- talking about how God reveals God's self in the context of different cultures, and how God seems to teach humankind in small steps, and how sometimes it's challenging for people to sort out which bits of early Christian practice were simply reflecting their culture's assumptions and which bits were direct teachings from God. But it requires a long span of time and patience to have that conversation -- maybe an hour, maybe multiple hours or more -- and it requires that both parties be ready to listen to each other with an open mind. A quick exchange on a street corner isn't going to be a good setting for a nuanced conversation.

What he doesn't say explicitly is that because you were standing at the entrance to a Pride festival, he may have assumed you were there to communicate an anti-gay message. If that's his perception, then that will tend to shut down the possibility of honest conversation. Perhaps a more neutral setting would be a more productive place for your message -- a table at a farmer's market or community fair, for example, where it's clear that you're not condemning the festival itself, but are just there to tell people that Jesus loves them and invites them into communion with him.

I'm pleased that you're going out into places where people are to meet people and tell them about your faith. It's easier, and more comfortable, to sit inside a church building and wait for people to come to us, but it's out in the world where we have the opportunities to listen to people's stories and minister to their needs.
Thank you! He was a tough one. I usually go to our weekly farmer's market and have some nice conversations with people. Just never know where it'll lead or who you'll talk to.

Thanks again!
 
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