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This is great news for the USA.
Why?

Tell me what is the best item in this bill and how it’s an objectively good thing for the country.
 
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Why?

Tell me what is the best item in this bill and how it’s an objectively good thing for the country.
Tax cuts, more money and resources to deport illegal immigrants, Medicaid reform, etc., etc., and etc. Those are all objectively good things which the majority of the voters in 31 states voted for and want to happen.
 
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This bill, once signed into law, will add trillions to the national debt and impact almost every American in a negative way in the coming years. It's not something to celebrate.
 
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This bill, once signed into law, will add trillions to the national debt and impact almost every American in a negative way in the coming years. It's not something to celebrate.
time will tell what benefit or not it will have.
 
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Tax cuts, more money and resources to deport illegal immigrants, Medicaid reform, etc., etc., and etc. Those are all objectively good things which the majority of the voters in 31 states voted for and want to happen.
Well, to be fair whether certain parts of that are good may depend on how you feel about certain issues.
 
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Farewell to Medicaid and rural hospitals!

Farewell to the Rights of Man! (for Billy Budd fans).
but then again if the requirements are stricter could it not be that less money is spent anyway? Not to mention that in some states medicaid may as well not exsist anyway sense more places do not take it.
 
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This bill, once signed into law, will add trillions to the national debt and impact almost every American in a negative way in the coming years. It's not something to celebrate.
I absolutely disagree with this very pessimistic prediction.
 
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Yes, it will significantly increase the national debt, and it will bring Medicare and Social Security closer to collapse, but hey, they actually managed to pass a budget bill. How often does that happen these days?

I wonder how much the bill will support building, maintaining and staffing detention centers for illegal immigrants. I continue to think that those will be important for the rest of Trump's presidency.
 
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but then again if the requirements are stricter could it not be that less money is spent anyway? Not to mention that in some states medicaid may as well not exsist anyway sense more places do not take it.
With more requirements comes more bureaucracy to make sure people are obeying the rules. I would not be surprised the added complexity eats up the "savings".
 
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Tax cuts, more money and resources to deport illegal immigrants, Medicaid reform, etc., etc., and etc. Those are all objectively good things which the majority of the voters in 31 states voted for and want to happen.
Combine all that with the trillions pledged (up to $14 tril) in private investment to re-shore America's manufacturing, revenues resulting from the deregulation of the energy/resource sectors ending the climate/environmental scam (which was a leftist impoverishment of the west agenda), trillions in revenue brought in through tariffs, increased overall tax revenues, even with the lower tax rates, because of a booming economy and expanding workforce with higher wages, and last but not least, the trillions saved through peaceful trade instead of very expense, destructive, drawn-out wars. This is the kind of revenues that easily take care of national debt, deficits and social programs.

All the above is what the leftist Dems are truly afraid of because they'll be rendered obsolete.
 
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Tax cuts, more money and resources to deport illegal immigrants, Medicaid reform, etc., etc., and etc. Those are all objectively good things which the majority of the voters in 31 states voted for and want to happen.
One man's Medicaid reform is another man's young child dying from lack of treatment. A member of the working poor, father of 7, whose life story would break the hearts of those who have hearts to break, just wrote on Facebook that Congress voted to give him and millions of other Americans an expiration date. He has become an itinerant worker, going north in the summer and south in the winter, living in a beat up old Winnebago. Sometimes when the family is at the end of their rope I send them a little money to help them out. I guess that's where the tax breaks of those who are kind-hearted will go.
 
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but then again if the requirements are stricter could it not be that less money is spent anyway?
Yes, I'm pretty sure this is the reason for stricter requirements for health care insurance. The American "system" of tying healthcare to employment doesn't work very well for people - life expectancy has gone down.
Not to mention that in some states medicaid may as well not exsist anyway sense more places do not take it.
This is not a good argument for the bill.
 
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How is expecting able bodied people to do at least 20 hours of work, volunteer or paid, going to harm rural hospitals and Medicaid?
MY PERSONAL STORY

I am self employed making under 60K a year. Ten years ago my health insurance was $450 a month. Over the years it kept increasing to where I was paying $1200+ a month. Then I enrolled in Covered California ( Obama Care) because my income met the threshold for assistance. I began to pay an amount way more affordable through
"tax credits" . These credits make health insurance more affordable on marketplaces and they are a cornerstone of the Affordable Care Act (ACA).
This is now going to go away. The expiration of the enhanced premium tax credits, set for the end of 2025, will significantly increase out-of-pocket health insurance costs for millions of Americans. These enhanced credits currently lower monthly premiums for ACA Marketplace plans and expand eligibility for subsidies to higher income levels. Without them, people will pay more for their plans, and many who previously qualified for assistance will lose it entirely, potentially leading to a sharp rise in the uninsured rate.

Thank God this year I qualify for Medicare because I don't know what I would have done! We have to pray for the many people who will now suffer from no insurance and the hospital emergency rooms that will suddenly be filled with these uninsured individuals and legt with the burden of cost.

This is just one shortsighted example of
how this bill will effect Americans.
 
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