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I’m very touched by your kind response and I also consider you to be a friend and brother. Although I do willingly admit that my piety isn’t as neighborly as it should be sometimes. It’s something I do struggle with and work towards getting better at.
I would hope so. However, I do sometimes think that pushing back against false doctrines can also have an unintended negative consequence on the hearer (and onlookers). This can occur when a person who has accepted a false doctrine as true perceives a challenge as an attack on the truth itself and as a consequence they think abandononing the false doctrine is tantamount to abandoning the truth. Therefore, it is not easy to show people the error of their ways in such a way as to guide them to rejecting false doctrine in favor of adopting sound doctrine instead.
What happens if the sins are contributed and enforced by the organization itself? I understand the desire to want to turn a blind eye, but no where in the Bible tells us to do this, especially if this organization claims to be the speaker for God, I think that can be very dangerous.
Its not how Jesus handled the Scribes and Pharisees of His time and He is our example in all ways. I think we all need to be careful what doctrine we are following and any sins committed by that church. Rome claims to be the vicar of Christ on earth, despite Jesus claiming He has all authority Mat 28:18 and He is our Mediator, 1 Tim 2:5, so with these types of claims we should be extra careful of what they are teachings and what's happening in the church, because we are warned in Scripture of the antichrist which also means, in place of Christ, so those who are claiming this, should especially be scrutinized. Sin is very deceitful Heb 3:13 so its not something that should be covered or act like its not a big deal.
So far in my 8+ years of debating scripture I don’t think I’ve ever had a single person reevaluate their theology because of anything I’ve presented. At least not that I’m aware of. Nevertheless I still think that there are some who come to CF looking for answers like I was when I first came here. I came to CF to get different perspectives and interpretations of scripture so that I could make a more educated decision on what I believe the intended interpretations should be because I was in the process of reevaluating my theology. So I think that doctrinal debate seems to be more beneficial for newcomers rather than those who are set in their theology. It was certainly beneficial to me when I was reading thru them and asking questions.
Well if said organization is presently advocating sinful behavior then I would say that it should be corrected. But if said organization no longer advocates sinful behavior that it has in the past then I would say that it shouldn’t be judged by sins that it has repented from.
Jesus rebuked people for their current sins, not their sins that they have repented from, amen?
We tend to find our own voice most convincing, I know for my part debating Scripture serves more for me to clarify my own understanding rather than adopting the opinions of those I am engaging with. Which is more my aim, anyway, as I am persuaded that it is far better for us each to be convinced in our own minds than to seek areas to quibble over and expect others to come to our opinions. Iron sharpens iron, after all.
Amen.
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The RCC didn’t abolish the Saturday sabbath, God did and it has been revealed in scripture thru Paul in Romans 14 and Colossians 2:16.Amen.
But true repentance means a change of heart and change of direction, not continuing in the same path but because we repented our current sins are okay. We are told we are to confess and forsake our sins Pro 28:13 not continue in that path.
Seems like nothing has really changed
Are Indulgences Still Sold? | Tabletalk
People assume (as I once did) that since Martin Luther (1483–1546) first protested the abuse of indulgences, in 1517, that Rome must have been shamed into ending the practice. She was not. The sale of indulgences continues.
The Catholic church has touted they changed one of the commandments of God, commandments God said He would not change Psa 89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18-19 as it is God's own personal Testimony Exo 31:18. They claim this change is a mark of their authority over the authority of God, just as it was warned Dan 7:25. They have touted they are above the Bible and the change of one of God's commandments is proof of this. God said if we keep this commandment it is a sign/mark between God and His people Eze 20:20. So its all about choices, just as Jesus taught Mat 15:3-14 Mar 7:7-13
I do not see them taking back this position unfortunately, but has gathered the multitudes to follow them over keeping one of God's commandments.
Can you confirm the validity of the claims in this article thru an actual Catholic source?Amen.
But true repentance means a change of heart and change of direction, not continuing in the same path but because we repented our current sins are okay. We are told we are to confess and forsake our sins Pro 28:13 not continue in that path.
Seems like nothing has really changed
Are Indulgences Still Sold? | Tabletalk
People assume (as I once did) that since Martin Luther (1483–1546) first protested the abuse of indulgences, in 1517, that Rome must have been shamed into ending the practice. She was not. The sale of indulgences continues.
The Catholic church has touted they changed one of the commandments of God, commandments God said He would not change Psa 89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18-19 as it is God's own personal Testimony Exo 31:18. They claim this change is a mark of their authority over the authority of God, just as it was warned Dan 7:25. They have touted they are above the Bible and the change of one of God's commandments is proof of this. God said if we keep this commandment it is a sign/mark between God and His people Eze 20:20. So its all about choices, just as Jesus taught Mat 15:3-14 Mar 7:7-13
I do not see them taking back this position unfortunately, but has gathered the multitudes to follow them over keeping one of God's commandments.
Either God doesn't keep His promises Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 and God made the Sabbath to be contrary and against man right from Creation Col 2:14 essentially saying God was against man because He made the Sabbath for man Mark 2:27 from Creation as that is when God made the Sabbath thus saith the Lord Exo 20:11 or one is using Paul's texts out of context, even against what Paul himself taught and kept Acts 17:2 Acts 13:42, 44 Acts 18:4 and what Jesus taught and kept. Since I believe God's Word is trustworthy and we are warned the twisting of Paul writings which can be a salvation issue 2 Peter 3:16 , I am going to trust God means what He says that there is no one above to Him to edit His own Testimony Exo 31:18 and was warned would happen Dan 7:25
Your experience is similar to mine, though I do find on some occasions that my arguments resonate with people. I'm sure you and others experience the same thing. But I also feel like there are people out there who are reading and listening and not speaking. We don't know what impact our words have on them.
You are right, of course, but sometimes it is hard to let sleeping dogs lie.
Those who judge without mercy will be judged without mercy, mercy triumphs over judgment.
The scriptures is not a person, it cannot take the blame. This is like the samurais of bushido saying: I didn't kill him, my sword did.
