Israel Strikes Iran: Explosions in Tehran, Sirens in Israel

Desk trauma · Jun 21, 2025

Think we will get spy satellite pictures of the damage tweeted out with presidential commentary?

public hermit · Jun 21, 2025

JosephZ said:
Pretty close to zero. At a minimum, I expect Iran and/or its proxies to attack US assets in the Persian Gulf region, and there will also be a potential for terror attacks here in the US which will require additional responses to Iran. In a worst-case scenario, this could expand into a wider regional war that lasts for several years.

Agreed. They'll definitely attack our service members in the region. They'll have to, and Trump will have to respond. Oh well, the whole "peacemaker" shtick was just another lie.

Hans Blaster · Jun 21, 2025

public hermit said:
What are the chances this is the end of our involvement?

Zero. Trump just joined the US up for Israel's war with Iran.

wing2000 · Jun 21, 2025

wing2000 said:
I thought MAGA was opposed to spending US blood and resources in foreign lands.

Let's see how many of MAGA abandon their "no more wars" stance.

rjs330 · Jun 21, 2025

public hermit said:
What are the chances this is the end of our involvement?

Probably not the end. I'm sure we will continue to assist Israel with materials. And continue to push Iran to the negotiating table.

Iran screwed up and was working toward nukes and Trump has been clear, no nukes. Since Iran refused to negotiate and continued to work at it there was only two choices. Let them have nukes or stop them. Israel has been clear as well. Stopping them doea not mean a full scale war. It does mean strikes against their production.

Iran has no capability to invade Israel or the US. There will be no land war, thus no full scale war.

wing2000 · Jun 21, 2025

bèlla · Jun 21, 2025

Jamdoc said:
Not every action of God is puppy dogs and rainbows.

I know where I stand on the subject morally and support those with a similar ethos. That’s the line I’ve drawn in the sand. Some will fall within that group and others will not and I’m okay with that.

~bella

essentialsaltes · Jun 21, 2025

That TACO thing really rankled, didn't it?

essentialsaltes · Jun 21, 2025

bèlla said:
More lies once again. Here’s something you may want to look into. It’s a paper produced in 2009 by The Brookings Institute: Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy Towards Iran. I’m including a screenshot for your reference. Notice chapter 5.

Should we read chapter 4 now?

Is it still lies that the US could get involved?

rjs330 · Jun 21, 2025

There were some one of these threads saying Trump was just a blow hard and everyone knows he wont really follow through. His two weeks thing was just his way of not making any decision or whatever. Well I guess they were wrong. Just like I think they are going to be wrong about all out war with Iran.

There are countries in the middle east who don't want a nuclear Iran either.

Jamdoc · Jun 21, 2025

wing2000 said:
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I mean he spent over 60 days negotiating for a peaceful deal.
it was at an impasse. Iran refused any deal that didn't allow them to enrich Uranium and we would not allow them to enrich Uranium since they've already proven they won't hold to any established limits.

what are you going to do just accept a Jihadist regime with nuclear weapons that wants to use them on you as part of their end times checklist?

Canuckster · Jun 21, 2025

rjs330 said:
There were some one of these threads saying Trump was just a blow hard and everyone knows he wont really follow through. His two weeks thing was just his way of not making any decision or whatever. Well I guess they were wrong. Just like I think they are going to be wrong about all out war with Iran.

There are countries in the middle east who don't want a nuclear Iran either.

I don’t think Trump and his administration can be compared with previous presidents and their administrations over the last two decades when it comes to going to war. Those previous US administrations went to war not to win but to feed corruption & the military industrial complex by sustaining instability costing trillions of dollars and many American lives. I’m more inclined to believe that if America goes to war under Trump, they will go to win quickly and decisively. America has always had the military might to do that but previous administration chose not to for mentioned reasons. So far Trump used six bombs lasting only a short duration with zero American casualties. That’s not a war that’s a one-sided smack down. Hopefully, little else militarily will be required but if there is more required, I expect the same quick one-sided smack down that the US military has always been capable of doing but as already mentioned, previous administrations never used the US military in that manner, which must have been extremely frustrating for the front-line generals.

wing2000 · Jun 22, 2025

Jamdoc said:
I mean he spent over 60 days negotiating for a peaceful deal.
it was at an impasse. Iran refused any deal that didn't allow them to enrich Uranium and we would not allow them to enrich Uranium since they've already proven they won't hold to any established limits.

what are you going to do just accept a Jihadist regime with nuclear weapons that wants to use them on you as part of their end times checklist?

Yea, it only took 60 days for him to become Netanyahu's stooge.

wing2000 · Jun 22, 2025

Canuckster said:
I don’t think Trump and his administration can be compared with previous presidents and their administrations over the last two decades when it comes to going to war. Those previous US administrations went to war not to win but to feed corruption & the military industrial complex by sustaining instability costing trillions of dollars and many American lives. I’m more inclined to believe that if America goes to war under Trump, they will go to win quickly and decisively. America has always had the military might to do that but previous administration chose not to for mentioned reasons. So far Trump used six bombs lasting only a short duration with zero American casualties. That’s not a war that’s a one-sided smack down. Hopefully, little else militarily will be required but if there is more required, I expect the same quick one-sided smack down that the US military has always been capable of doing but as already mentioned, previous administrations never used the US military in that manner, which must have been extremely frustrating for the front-line generals.

...sign up solider. Or send your son or daughter to war.

essentialsaltes · Jun 22, 2025

“I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East,” [Veep Vance] told Welker on Sunday. “I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then, we had dumb presidents, and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America’s national security objectives.”

Desk trauma · Jun 22, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
“I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East,” [Veep Vance] told Welker on Sunday. “I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then, we had dumb presidents, and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America’s national security objectives.”

BCP1928 · Jun 22, 2025

Jamdoc said:
I mean he spent over 60 days negotiating for a peaceful deal.
it was at an impasse. Iran refused any deal that didn't allow them to enrich Uranium and we would not allow them to enrich Uranium since they've already proven they won't hold to any established limits.

what are you going to do just accept a Jihadist regime with nuclear weapons that wants to use them on you as part of their end times checklist?

Or should we side with Israel because it is part of your end-times checklist?

trophy33 · Jun 22, 2025

Jamdoc said:
I mean he spent over 60 days negotiating for a peaceful deal.

Where, with whom? What was the offer? Are you sure he was not playing golf instead?

essentialsaltes · Jun 22, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
There's always a tweet, anticipatory-style:

No longer anticipatory, and worth a repeat

Hans Blaster · Jun 22, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
“I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East,” [Veep Vance] told Welker on Sunday. “I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then, we had dumb presidents, and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America’s national security objectives.”

Especially that guy from 2017-2020 who really messed up the containment of Iran's nuclear program.

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