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Israel Strikes Iran: Explosions in Tehran, Sirens in Israel

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You can’t be America first when you elect a president, congressmen and senators who were funded by AIPAC and the Israeli lobby. You’ll have to do their bidding and we’re already involved.

Israel has 250 jets and couldn’t do those missions alone based on their service requirements and the distance they have to travel. They aren’t acting by themselves and have help shooting missiles down and that’s always been the case, The country is the size of New Jersey and Iran is significantly larger. It’s often compared to Western Europe as an example of its size. We’re seeing the same with Russia and Ukraine. That’s why others have gotten involved.

The media is downplaying a lot to mask their dependency and reliance on our weapons and military support. We already have a presence in the region and several ships heading in that direction. What they’re not admitting is how our involvement could bring other countries into the fray.

Russia and China are supplying Iran as we speak and they got an agreement from Pakistan yesterday. It’s bigger than nuclear weapons now. You’re messing with people’s money and resources which makes it personal. It isn’t simply Iran’s oil. Others have a share in it too and rely on the income. China gets its oil from them as well.

The longer it continues the greater the incentive to bring it to an end or get involved. It’s impacting others now.

~bella
 
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Trump calls for Iran's 'unconditional surrender,' calls Khamenei 'easy target'

President Donald Trump wrote a threatening post on his social media platform saying the U.S. knows where Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is hiding, calling him an "easy target" and calling for Iran's "unconditional surrender."

"We know exactly where the so-called 'Supreme Leader' is hiding," Trump wrote. "He is an easy target, but is safe there -- We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin."

....because "regime change" has worked so well in the Middle East.
 
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Trump says 'it's possible' US gets involved in Israel-Iran conflict

Will the U.S. get more involved in the conflict?: "We're not involved in it. It's possible we could get involved. But we are not at this moment involved," the president said.

Is this just Trump's mouth flapping carelessly or something real? Your guess is as good as mine!

Donald Trump weighs options on Iran including US strike after urgent White House meeting: Reports

Options are being weighed.

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Not getting involved would be clearly anti Semitic.

You can’t be America first when you elect a president, congressmen and senators who were funded by AIPAC and the Israeli lobby. You’ll have to do their bidding and we’re already involved.

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Are you asking us to trust him?
Certainly not.

He says he knows better than the generals and knows better than his own intelligence agencies. I don't believe that.

It's a good thing Iran has neither a nuclear weapon, nor a way of delivering one to the US.

So far, whether it's international trade deals, ending the invasion of Ukraine, or finding a peaceful resolution here, Trump's foreign policy is a catastrophe.
 
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I think Haiti deserves a few dozen atomic bombs. And if anyone thinks they want to try and prevent that, just remember... You're in the wrong.
This thread requires no extraneous gibbering.
 
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That wasn’t mentioned in the piece I listened to and I don’t follow mainstream media for geopolitical news. They didn’t want them sharing to prevent the news getting out about the damages to the wider public (via social media) and the imagery would encourage them to leave. Haaretz was cited as the source for explaining their departures. They suggested that over 1.5 million people have left in the last two years and 2 million were trying to secure tickets recently. Israeli authorities have forbidden airlines from carrying their citizens and prevented them from going. Many are taking the ferry to Cyprus and others are getting out via Egypt and Jordan.

I haven’t listened to today’s reports as of yet. But I’ve often wondered who’d willingly live in a war zone if they were able to go elsewhere. I didn’t look up the article but the premise is pretty disturbing and it isn’t unheard of. That’s why it’s important to leave before things get heated and the majority wait too long. I’ve seen a lot of images and it’s bad. Israel has a lot of influence over our media. That’s why I look elsewhere. I don’t believe anything we say. There’s too many warmongers on capitol hill. They’ve wanted this for a while.

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to be honest I don't even remember exactly where I heard that particular rationale, but it made sense. Having been military you're not allowed to use your cellphone in certain circumstances because it can be used to geolocate where your unit is. Ukraine has used Russian soldiers using their cellphones to use HIMARS rockets on Russian training grounds and barracks because a soldier was using his cellphone and Ukraine used the signal to locate the barracks and target it. A Russian submarine commander was assassinated on his daily jog, how was he found? His apple watch was recording his route and posting it to social media, one of the commander's followers on vk was Ukrainian intelligence.

So, I'd believe it if there's a legit reason to prevent filming strikes, because Iran CAN use the footage and geolocation.
 
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So, I'd believe it if there's a legit reason to prevent filming strikes, because Iran CAN use the footage and geolocation.

Given Trump’s bravado concerning the Khomeini and his possible assassination they’ve heightened the decibel and this is the worst night of bombing. The dome continues to fail and the rubble is growing. And they’ve shot down F-35s. But Trump insists he controls the skies over Iran.

~bella
 
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We have an updated report on cargo deliveries.

”The Telegraph reported on June 17. At least three Chinese cargo planes have been sent towards Iran since the conflict broke out on June 13. Boeing 787 freighters, which China sent towards Tehran, are commonly used for transporting military equipment and weapons.”

And Sanders issued a public statement concerning Iran. The video is 6 minutes and candidly says: Trump: Don't Drag the US Into Netanyahu's War with Iran

 
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I was praying and hoping that Israel would have given the USA more time to reach a diplomatic solution with Iran in order to hopefully have a peaceful resolution to Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Neither Israel or the Trump administration actually want a peaceful resolution.
 
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