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Senate Budget Provision Would Sell Off USPS' New Fleet of EV's, Costing $1B+

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A little-noticed provision of President Donald Trump and Republicans’ massive tax and immigration legislation would force the government to undo billions of dollars in electric vehicle investments made by the U.S. Postal Service, unwinding much of the Biden administration’s climate push at the mail agency while dealing it a sharp financial setback.​

The Senate’s version of Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill would see the General Services Administration take possession of the nearly 7,200 new postal EVs and associated infrastructure and put the assets up for auction. The proposal is unlikely to generate much revenue for the government; there is almost no private-sector interest in the mail trucks, and used EV charging equipment — built specifically for the Postal Service and already installed in postal facilities — generally cannot be resold.​

USPS response to this proposal:
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is currently considering a proposal as part of the budget reconciliation process that would make major and damaging changes to the U.S. Postal Service’s vehicle fleet program, potentially impacting our ability to deliver to millions of Americans. Specifically, the committee is considering a proposal that would require the General Services Administration (GSA) to take possession of all of our electric vehicles and all of those vehicles’ supporting infrastructure and then put it all up for auction. Further, the proposal would rescind any unobligated funds made available by the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 for the Postal Service to acquire zero-emission vehicles and infrastructure.

As a self-supporting federal establishment working to achieve financial sustainability, the Postal Service appreciates far more than most federal agencies the importance of fiscal responsibility and achieving real returns for every dollar expended. Consequently, I am writing today to alert the Congress to the real and foreseeable damage that would be caused by arbitrarily scrapping one part of our long-term vehicle strategy. Summarily removing all electric vehicles and charging infrastructure would hobble our ability to deliver to the American people, it would directly harm our ability to serve your constituents, and it would waste crucial funds for no reasonable purpose.

Presently, the Postal Service has approximately 7,200 Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs), which are a mix of Ford e-Transit vehicles and the specially built (uniquely right-hand drive) Next Generation Delivery Vehicles (NGDV) procured from Oshkosh Defense and manufactured in South Carolina. As the NGDV production ramps up, the number of BEVs in our fleet will increase, and over the ten-year procurement cycle we currently plan to acquire approximately 66,000.

  • Replacing the current 7,200 BEVs would directly cost the Postal Service $450 million, at a minimum.
  • Preparing for wider BEV adoption, the Postal Service has spent $540 million on electrical infrastructure upgrades. These sunk costs are largely unrecoverable and can only yield a return on investment by being put to their intended use.
  • The NGDV Oshkosh contract requires the Postal Service to give the manufacturer sufficient lead time to plan and acquire materials. The cost and penalties for changing the mix of BEV and internal combustion NGDVs would be significant.
  • The funds realized by auctioning the vehicles and infrastructure would be negligible. Much of infrastructure is literally buried under parking lots, and there is no market for used charging equipment. The Ford e-Transit vehicles would likely yield significantly less than even their undepreciated book value, and it would not be possible to sell NGDVs due to security concerns.

Removing these vehicles from our delivery would serve no purpose. The direct and accounting costs to the Postal Service to replace its BEVs would be approximately $1 billion, with another $500 million in infrastructure rendered useless.

It is also important to realize that the BEV component of the NGDV program has been carefully considered from a business perspective. We are deploying BEVs to routes and delivery units where the BEVs will save us money when compared to internal combustion engines. Removing that option will make it harder over the medium and long term for the Postal Service to cost effectively serve its customers.

This is a significant and costly change that will undo more than 10 years of planning and work on our delivery fleet replacement. It will cost the Postal Service $1.5 billion of funds that we desperately need in order to serve the American people, and it will seriously cripple our ability to replace an aging and obsolete delivery fleet. We urge the Senate and the committee to pause and consider the substantial harm this proposal would cause to the Postal Service and our customers, your constituents.​
 

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As of now, the U.S. Postal Service has acquired approximately 7,200 electric delivery vehicles as part of its broader plan to deploy over 66,000 EVs by 2028. This rollout is part of a $9.6 billion investment to modernize its aging fleet, with funding support from the Inflation Reduction Act.

That said, there’s some political turbulence: a proposed Senate bill could potentially force the USPS to sell off its current EVs and charging infrastructure, which might impact the future of this electrification effort.

Oh my! were are my pearls to clutch!!!!!

How many charging stations are needed for 59,000 additional vehicles?

How much does a charging station cost. What is the cost of the electric needed to charge 66,000 units for eight hours every day?

But hey - it has the ability to make the administration look bad - so let's run with it.
 
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As of now, the U.S. Postal Service has acquired approximately 7,200 electric delivery vehicles as part of its broader plan to deploy over 66,000 EVs by 2028. This rollout is part of a $9.6 billion investment to modernize its aging fleet, with funding support from the Inflation Reduction Act.

That said, there’s some political turbulence: a proposed Senate bill could potentially force the USPS to sell off its current EVs and charging infrastructure, which might impact the future of this electrification effort.

Oh my! were are my pearls to clutch!!!!!

How many charging stations are needed for 59,000 additional vehicles?

How much does a charging station cost. What is the cost of the electric needed to charge 66,000 units for eight hours every day?

I don't know. Do you? Somehow I doubt it.

They've already spent $540 million to install charging infrastructure. That comes out to $75,000 per vehicle they've already purchased or $8181 for each of the 66,000 they've already planned to purchase. Based on those numbers, I doubt they've already installed all of the planned infrastructure, but if sounds like they've installed a significant percentage of it.

According to the USPS, switching many of their routes to EV's will save them money in the long run. It's not hard to see how this is the case since their existing fleet was already long overdue for replacement and mail delivery vehicles are about as ideal a use case for EV's as one could find: small payloads delivered over relatively short distances, at low speeds, with frequent stops and starts, and with most charging done overnight during off-peak hours.

Those chargers would cost a fair amount of money to remove and would bring in very little money in sales. Then the USPS would still have to find new vehicles and fuel them, to the tune of more billions. Do you like burning money needlessly? I wouldn't have thought so given how supportive of DOGE's efforts you've been.

But hey - it has the ability to make the administration look bad - so let's run with it.
This seems to be coming from the Senate, so my immediate reaction is that it's one or more Republican senators to blame, not necessarily Trump.
 
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If Republicans want to hurt the environment, let them purchase gas vehicles for the remainder of the 66,000 planned vehicles (i.e. 58,800 vehicles.)
Selling the existing EV's just to court favor with the president by showing him they hate clean air and lower fuel costs so much that they'll waste money proving it seems ridiculous.
 
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If Republicans want to hurt the environment, let them purchase gas vehicles for the remainder of the 66,000 planned vehicles (i.e. 58,800 vehicles.)
Selling the existing EV's just to court favor with the president by showing him they hate clean air and lower fuel costs so much that they'll waste money proving it seems ridiculous.
Fear mongering and vitriolic dislike has never worked - and certainly seemed to have brought the Democratic Party into a spiraling decent into chaos - but you do you.
 
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Fear mongering and vitriolic dislike has never worked

Really? It got Trump re-elected.

Oh, you probably just meant that for Democrats, in which case, I’d be inclined to agree.

But either way, what fearmongering? Is this not a real proposal from Senate Republicans?
 
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Really? It got Trump re-elected.
Did i say that?
Oh, you probably just meant that for Democrats, in which case, I’d be inclined to agree.
Is there still a Democratic party that is remotely functioning?

Two influential labor union heads quit their posts at the DNC after disagreements over the party’s direction. Gun control activist David Hogg was ousted from the DNC’s vice chairman position after he pledged to fund primary challenges against “ineffective” Democrats.Martin has infuriated some Democrats by purging a number of party officials from a powerful panel that has enormous sway over the presidential nominating contest. And Martin complained in a private meeting that intraparty warfare had “destroyed any chance I have to show the leadership that I need to.”
But either way, what fearmongering? Is this not a real proposal from Senate Republicans?
Please cite the proposal that

Selling the existing EV's just to court favor with the president by showing him they hate clean air and lower fuel costs
 
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As of now, the U.S. Postal Service has acquired approximately 7,200 electric delivery vehicles as part of its broader plan to deploy over 66,000 EVs by 2028. This rollout is part of a $9.6 billion investment to modernize its aging fleet, with funding support from the Inflation Reduction Act.

That said, there’s some political turbulence: a proposed Senate bill could potentially force the USPS to sell off its current EVs and charging infrastructure, which might impact the future of this electrification effort.

Oh my! were are my pearls to clutch!!!!!

How many charging stations are needed for 59,000 additional vehicles?

How much does a charging station cost. What is the cost of the electric needed to charge 66,000 units for eight hours every day?

But hey - it has the ability to make the administration look bad - so let's run with it.

It costs substantially less, over the lifetime of the vehicles, than the cost of gasoline (with the savings on maintenance an added bonus).
 
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It costs substantially less, over the lifetime of the vehicles, than the cost of gasoline (with the savings on maintenance an added bonus).
But maybe (or perhaps probably) Republicans owe the oil industry and lobbyists a big favor...
 
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But maybe (or perhaps probably) Republicans owe the oil industry and lobbyists a big favor...
definitely - remember when the Republican President sent pallets full of cash to an oil rich nation - oh, wait - Barack Hussein was not ....
 
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But maybe (or perhaps probably) Republicans owe the oil industry and lobbyists a big favor...

He might have twisted their arms ;-)

Trump pressed oil executives to give $1 billion for his campaign, people in industry say

Former President Donald Trump asked oil industry executives last month to donate $1 billion to aid his campaign to retake the White House, three people familiar with the conversation told POLITICO — a request that campaign finance experts said appeared troubling but is probably legal.

The April dinner at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club was described as a roundtable discussion on energy security, according to one person familiar with the event who was granted anonymity to discuss the private gathering. It included executives from oil companies Exxon Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Continental Resources as well as from natural gas producer EQT and gas exporter Cheniere Energy, and the trade association American Petroleum Institute.

One person not at the dinner — Dan Eberhart, chief executive of the Denver-based oil company Canary LLC — said participants told him that Trump asked the attendees to contribute a combined $1 billion for his campaign. Two industry representatives whose companies attended the meeting confirmed the amount to POLITICO.

Oil executives want Trump to end the Biden administration’s pause on new natural gas export permits and expand the number of offshore drilling lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico made available by Biden’s Interior Department.

At the April dinner, Trump also promised to slash the Biden administration’s tax credits for electric vehicles and spend less government money developing wind power, according to The Washington Post.

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...there's a reason Amazon and other major shipping companies are converting to EV's for deliveries....especially in urban areas.

Ikea has started to electrify their van and truck fleet in major urban centres in Australia, although they're doing it through lease agreements. As of April, 65% of their deliveries in Sydney were made with electric vehicles, and they're aiming for 90% by the end of the year.
 
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...there's a reason Amazon and other major shipping companies are converting to EV's for deliveries....especially in urban areas.
They just have to worry about profit and loss and serving customers well. They don't have to worry about pleasing corporate lobbyists who make big campaign donations.
 
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Did i say that?

Is there still a Democratic party that is remotely functioning?

Two influential labor union heads quit their posts at the DNC after disagreements over the party’s direction. Gun control activist David Hogg was ousted from the DNC’s vice chairman position after he pledged to fund primary challenges against “ineffective” Democrats.Martin has infuriated some Democrats by purging a number of party officials from a powerful panel that has enormous sway over the presidential nominating contest. And Martin complained in a private meeting that intraparty warfare had “destroyed any chance I have to show the leadership that I need to.”

Please cite the proposal that
Contrary to what you may have heard, party committees don't run Congressional caucuses.
 
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Contrary to what you may have heard, party committees don't run Congressional caucuses.
Can you please answer my question please?

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