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Step back and look at the executive branch ignoring and thinking it is more powerful that the judiciary branch, and repeat your words, "so much for democracy".
“So much for democracy “ when the unelected judicial branch thinks they are more powerful than the duly elected president. It is rogue judges usurping power the constitution gives the president. Trump has had fight in the courts just to maintain some of the authority given him by the constitution. All of this “king and dictator “ nonsense is just liberal vomit. No king or dictator could be hindered by the courts like Trump has.
 
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Than you for explaining "bif".

Not allegedly - Trump was found to be liable in a court of law, upheld by all appellate courts. Of course, I don't think Donald John Trump needs to assault women, but he not only bragged about assaulting women, but 26 independent women confirmed his proclivity over several decades. You are defaming E. Jean Carroll.

It wasn't open. This is a demonstrable falsehood. People claiming asylum were given a court date and released. Not citizenship, but asylum. You're making claims about things you know little of.

Willfully? That's contrary to actual reality, but a useful talking point for those who care more for utility than truth.
Wilfully yes . Considering the previous government denied it was even happening for years . You say Sigh you say Goody . Consider our conversation over.
 
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“So much for democracy “ when the unelected judicial branch thinks they are more powerful than the duly elected president. It is rogue judges usurping power the constitution giver the president. Trump has had fight in the courts just to maintain some of the authority given him by the constitution. All of this “king and dictator “ nonsense is just liberal vomit. No king or dictator could be hindered by the courts like Trump has.
The Judicial Branch of government has different powers than the executive branch, No single branch of government or individual has all the power.
 
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“So much for democracy “ when the unelected judicial branch thinks they are more powerful than the duly elected president. It is rogue judges usurping power the constitution gives the president. Trump has had fight in the courts just to maintain some of the authority given him by the constitution. All of this “king and dictator “ nonsense is just liberal vomit. No king or dictator could be hindered by the courts like Trump has.
Correct me if i'm wrong but The Executive, Legislative and Judiciary, I had thought, were all EQUAL though they have different roles and keep each other in checks and balances (the famous phrase our Canadian teachers taught us about your government). And all three branches are subject to the Constitution and, to then, hold each other in check when they step out of line of the Constitution.


As a brief summary, is that not how American politics supposed to function?
 
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“So much for democracy “ when the unelected judicial branch thinks they are more powerful than the duly elected president. It is rogue judges usurping power the constitution gives the president. Trump has had fight in the courts just to maintain some of the authority given him by the constitution. All of this “king and dictator “ nonsense is just liberal vomit. No king or dictator could be hindered by the courts like Trump has.
Or when an elected president violates the constitution through fiat, then it's the appointed and nominated judicial branch who places the check on that abuse of power. That's the accurate assessment of current events.
 
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Say it ain’t so you say the appearance of corruption is irrelevant. That’s very true. But the appearance of corruption is often a reality. As you well know those checks and balances don’t always work out
Framework, framework, framework. Again they left a Kingship to establish a democratically elected republic with three branches of government as a check on power. If one forgets history, one is doomed to repeat it. And two many Americans in power along with too many of its citizenry have forgotten history.
 
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As a brief summary, is that not how American politics supposed to function?
Yes, supposed to function is correct. But some judges overstep their legal authority and have to be reigned in by higher judges. Which in many cases gas has happened. There have been cases with these unconstitutional national injunctions where judges have exceeded their lawful authority.
 
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a U.S. state governor does not have the legal authority to withhold federal tax funds from the federal government.

Here’s why:
  1. Federal Taxes Are Paid Directly to the IRS: Individuals and businesses pay federal income taxes directly to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), not through the state government. Employers withhold federal taxes from paychecks and remit them directly to the IRS. States are not intermediaries in this process

  2. States Don't Control Federal Tax Collection: Because the federal tax system operates independently of state governments, governors cannot intercept or block these funds. Any suggestion that a state could withhold federal tax payments is legally and practically unfeasible

  3. Political Rhetoric vs. Legal Reality: While some governors, like California’s Gavin Newsom, have floated the idea of withholding funds in response to federal actions (e.g., cutting federal aid), these are typically political statements rather than actionable policies. Experts agree that such actions would lack legal standing and would likely be challenged in court
 
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Yes, supposed to function is correct. But some judges overstep their legal authority and have to be reigned in by higher judges. Which in many cases gas has happened. There have been cases with these unconstitutional national injunctions where judges have exceeded their lawful authority.
That is an opinion.

For folks who argue SO hard for "States rights" on so many issues, I find it laughable how hard you are trying to put all your power into a single entity at a federal level.
 
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a U.S. state governor does not have the legal authority to withhold federal tax funds from the federal government.

Here’s why:
  1. Federal Taxes Are Paid Directly to the IRS: Individuals and businesses pay federal income taxes directly to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), not through the state government. Employers withhold federal taxes from paychecks and remit them directly to the IRS. States are not intermediaries in this process

  2. States Don't Control Federal Tax Collection: Because the federal tax system operates independently of state governments, governors cannot intercept or block these funds. Any suggestion that a state could withhold federal tax payments is legally and practically unfeasible

  3. Political Rhetoric vs. Legal Reality: While some governors, like California’s Gavin Newsom, have floated the idea of withholding funds in response to federal actions (e.g., cutting federal aid), these are typically political statements rather than actionable policies. Experts agree that such actions would lack legal standing and would likely be challenged in court
Oh. I have no doubt about that. I havent' looked that closely at this thread but I don't know who is arguing the legality of it.

All I wonder is:

Why should Neusom supporters care that it's not legal?
 
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That is an opinion.

For folks who argue SO hard for "States rights" on so many issues, I find it laughable how hard you are trying to put all your power into a single entity at a federal level.
Yours is an opinion of my intent.
 
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Yours is an opinion of my intent.
Yes. Yes. I hear things like that often.

"This isn't about Trump. This is about understanding the Constitution". But if any Democrat were doing this, they would be burning the government down.

So you'll have to excuse me if it's difficult to take support of trump seriously; as if it's a stance based on integrity and not simply convinience.
 
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a U.S. state governor does not have the legal authority to withhold federal tax funds from the federal government.

Here’s why:
  1. Federal Taxes Are Paid Directly to the IRS: Individuals and businesses pay federal income taxes directly to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), not through the state government. Employers withhold federal taxes from paychecks and remit them directly to the IRS. States are not intermediaries in this process

  2. States Don't Control Federal Tax Collection: Because the federal tax system operates independently of state governments, governors cannot intercept or block these funds. Any suggestion that a state could withhold federal tax payments is legally and practically unfeasible

  3. Political Rhetoric vs. Legal Reality: While some governors, like California’s Gavin Newsom, have floated the idea of withholding funds in response to federal actions (e.g., cutting federal aid), these are typically political statements rather than actionable policies. Experts agree that such actions would lack legal standing and would likely be challenged in court
What’s legal doesn’t really matter anymore. It’s about what you can get away with.
 
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What’s legal doesn’t really matter anymore. It’s about what you can get away with.
I honestly don't think that Republican Trump supporters have realized that yet.
 
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Yes. Yes. I hear things like that often.

"This isn't about Trump. This is about understanding the Constitution". But if any Democrat were doing this, they would be burning the government down.

So you'll have to excuse me if it's difficult to take support of trump seriously; as if it's a stance based on integrity and not simply convinience.
After the previous four years anyone is an improvement. My opinion, fact based of course!
 
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After the previous four years anyone is an improvement. My opinion, fact based of course!
There are quite a few people whose opinions are the opposite.....55 as I recall...and of those not worshipping him 65% Indies and 92% Demmies
 
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There are quite a few people whose opinions are the opposite.....55 as I recall...and of those not worshipping him 65% Indies and 92% Demmies
Care to provide the source of your numbers?
 
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No king or dictator could be hindered by the courts like Trump has.
And we plan on keeping it that way. Despite Trump's attempts to eliminate that hinderance, I fervently hope the courts will continue to do their constitutionally mandated job of providing checks and balances to an executive branch determined to overstep its authority.

-- A2SG, y'all are getting really bad at convincing us that Trump doesn't want to be a dictator, y'know....
 
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