Faux-pro-life president signs executive order to lower prices for IVF and make it more accessible...

Fantine said:

Did it ever occur to you how many embryos are created and never implanted? "Limbo" was just a pre-Vatican II concept for many years, but the thousands of unharvested embryos frozen throughout the country have given "limbo" a new meaning.

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Fantine said:

Did it ever occur to you how many embryos are created and never implanted? "Limbo" was just a pre-Vatican II concept for many years, but the thousands of unharvested embryos frozen throughout the country have given "limbo" a new meaning.

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Maria Billingsley said:

Are we suddenly throwing out " life after conception "? These embryos are frozen between 5-7 days after fertilization. It would be impossible to be pro- life and pro IVF without obvious hypocrisy. Thousands of embryos, children, are discarded yearly. This is another form of abortion. Let us reason people! You can't have it both ways.

More data:
It is estimated that hundreds of thousands to millions of unused IVF embryos are created, frozen, and eventually discarded or remain in long-term storage each year.
Here's a breakdown :
* High creation rates: IVF clinics typically create multiple embryos per cycle to maximize the chances of a successful pregnancy. For example, in 2021, over 238,000 IVF cycles in the US could have yielded between 1.6 million and 1.9 million embryos.
* Significant surplus: A large number of these created embryos are not implanted. Estimates suggest that in the US, between 1.5 million and 1.8 million embryos created through IVF are never born.
* Disposition choices: Patients face decisions about their unused embryos, including:
* Discarding: A significant percentage of patients choose to discard their embryos. One study found that 50.6% of patients chose to discard them.
* Donation to research: Some patients donate embryos for scientific research.
* Reproductive donation (to other couples): A smaller percentage choose to donate embryos to other couples.
* Long-term storage: Many embryos remain in long-term frozen storage, often for years. However, a substantial number of these are eventually abandoned or the storage fees are discontinued, leading to their eventual discarding.
* Global scale: The issue is global. For instance, the UK freezes around 100,000 embryos per year, and Spain had over 600,000 cryopreserved embryos as of 2023, with a significant proportion estimated as "abandoned."
While exact global figures for discarded embryos are difficult to pinpoint due to varied reporting practices, the available data consistently points to a large number of embryos being created in excess of immediate implantation needs, leading to a substantial number being discarded or remaining in a state of limbo.

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Fantine said:

Did it ever occur to you how many embryos are created and never implanted? "Limbo" was just a pre-Vatican II concept for many years, but the thousands of unharvested embryos frozen throughout the country have given "limbo" a new meaning.

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LizaMarie said:

Well firstly, I believe children deserve a mother and a father and be raised in an intact family if possible and making IVF free- how is the government or insurance companies going to say no to anyone that wants to create a child, gay couples single parents, etc?

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FAITH-IN-HIM said:

The issue isn't whether the government can dictate who can have children. The question is, given that IVF treatment involves destroying many embryos, can someone who believes life begins at conception support such a procedure?

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RileyG said:

I’m pro life and proudly anti-IVF, I don’t think any human should be treated as disposable, which often happens with IVF.

Be blessed

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RileyG said:

The Catholic Church is opposed to abortion and IVF. Period.

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Oompa Loompa said:

So for Catholics, would it be acceptable to oppose IVF while simultaneously supporting easier access to it for others?

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bèlla said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. As a parent, I support a couple’s right to have a family if traditional methods aren’t possible. Nor should they be forced to adopt if they don’t desire to do so. It isn’t the right choice for everyone.

~bella

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FAITH-IN-HIM said:

If someone is pro-choice, I understand that your argument may have merit. However, if an individual supports the belief that life begins at conception and considers themselves pro-life, viewing abortion as a sin, how can they justify supporting treatments that destroy embryos?

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