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Large-Scale Ukrainian Attack Targets Air Bases Deep inside Russia

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There is a reason I used quotes.
If Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine, she would've declared war (actual war), invaded with half a million men, blasted everything in sight demoralising the population, finished it all in 3-4 weeks. Similar to what Medvedev did in Georgia, similar to what the USA did in Iraq (times two), Serbia, etc.
What Russia wanted from Ukraine was very simple but became complicated because of US and NATO intervention, full-scale mobilisation on the Ukrainian side, acts of sabotage, etc.
Now we have the latest provocation which could be taken as a violation of a nuclear treaty (those planes HAD to be there in the open) with consequences too horrible to imagine.

You seemed to have forgotten that Putin invaded with four lines of attack- all for the purpose of taking the entire country. He failed thanks in part to a corrupt and weak military and Ukraine's resolve to fight for their territory.
 
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If I’m remembering my schoolyard etiquette correctly, one needs to bloody the bully’s nose before he stops bothering you. Asking for them to “please be nice” doesn’t seem to work and more drastic measures are taken.
This is that.
Yes, power in strength but Putin is not on the front lines and he seems hardened as much as Pharaoh.
 
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Turn off wireless internet.
You don't need the internet to fly them. When I fire mine up, I put my phone (which I use as a controller) on airplane mode. The drone then connects itself to around a dozen or so satellites (it shows you how many on the screen so you'll know how accurate the positioning is).
 
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You don't need the internet to fly them. When I fire mine up, I put my phone (which I use as a controller) on airplane mode. The drone then connects itself to around a dozen or so satellites (it shows you how many on the screen so you'll know how accurate the positioning is).

I've seen at least one report that mentioned that the drones were guided by trained AI. Which would be even more scary if true.
 
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I've seen at least one report that mentioned that the drones were guided by trained AI. Which would be even more scary if true.
One report said that there was one warm blooded controller per drone. I don't think it would need AI - they're very easy to fly. Especially as the instructions would have been 'Take off, fly across airport perimeter, fly into plane'. If the drones had been there for some time, they'd need some way of maintaining battery power, but I don't know if they'd been 'on site' for months. A large truck parked near a secure area for any length of time would have been suspicious.
 
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Now we have the latest provocation which could be taken as a violation of a nuclear treaty (those planes HAD to be there in the open) with consequences too horrible to imagine.
Like force Russia back to the negotiating table in Turkey?

Who knew Russia only understood strength?

Doubtless Russia still can’t be trusted, though. Russia is not serious about peace and cannot be trusted; it is a rogue state.
 
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Like force Russia back to the negotiating table in Turkey?

How were they "forced" when the proposals they submitted haven't changed one bit?

it is a rogue state.

Like refusing to accept the all-world hegemony of the USA?
Like refusing to allow non-traditional marriages?
Like refusing to permit predators to indoctrinate children and adults into perversion?
 
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Like refusing to accept the all-world hegemony of the USA?
Like refusing to allow non-traditional marriages?
Like refusing to permit predators to indoctrinate children and adults into perversion?
Like committing several war crimes, but thanks for letting everyone know what actually matters to you. Social issues, because dear Lord someone might disagree that Christianity should dictate morality.
 
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thanks for letting everyone know what actually matters to you

So, an all-world government does not matter to you?
The lives of 1,300,000 Iraqis does not matter to you?
The lives of Serbs suffering from cancer, thanks to depleted uranium bombs, does not matter to you?

That is what Russia is fighting against. Not just the corrupt - and now terrorist - state of Ukraine.
 
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This unprovoked attack against a peaceful neighbor shows just how dangerous Ukraine is to the safety and security to peaceful law abiding nations.
 
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So, an all-world government does not matter to you?
The lives of 1,300,000 Iraqis does not matter to you?
The lives of Serbs suffering from cancer, thanks to depleted uranium bombs, does not matter to you?

That is what Russia is fighting against. Not just the corrupt - and now terrorist - state of Ukraine.
Forgot the bio labs.
 
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This unprovoked attack against a peaceful neighbor shows just how dangerous Ukraine is to the safety and security to peaceful law abiding nations.

Threatening to bring NATO in your borders is dangerous.
As for "peaceful", please remember what happened in Lugansk and Donbas in 2014.

PS. Many thanks, Aryeh for not making this personal :thumbsup:
 
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This unprovoked attack against a peaceful neighbor shows just how dangerous Ukraine is to the safety and security to peaceful law abiding nations.
I still recall, with much affection, the first time I responded to one of your posts with a blistering attack on your inhumanity, only to have another member explain your modus operandi.
 
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Threatening to bring NATO in your borders is dangerous.
NATO is in my borders. How is it dangerous?

BTW, Russia managed to get Finland to NATO, which created much larger border with NATO than before.
 
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I still recall, with much affection, the first time I responded to one of your posts with a blistering attack on your inhumanity, only to have another member explain your modus operandi.

Lies!
 
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Threatening to bring NATO in your borders is dangerous.
As for "peaceful", please remember what happened in Lugansk and Donbas in 2014.

PS. Many thanks, Aryeh for not making this personal :thumbsup:

I'm sure that the actions of Russia has done more to bring NATO to its borders than anything Ukraine might do in the future.

Welcome Finland and Sweden!
 
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