Fitness/Diet Accountability Thread

Tempura said:

Brother, I was joking. But if you are too, you are way more committed than I am, so you win!

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Sorry, I didn't get the joke, I'm slow minded. 5 kcal / day, I don't do that anymore, it can actually be unhealthy.

timewerx said:

I'm slow minded

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...or my jokes are crap. In any case, you seem to be fast with skates so that counts for something!

Did a little jogging this morning, and back/triceps exercises in the evening. Low volume and usually two working sets per exercise, to failure or at least near failure. Some with weights, some with bands, some bodyweight exercises, always trying to beat previous personal records. Doesn't compare to a gym but my home setup is looking alright. I might need an incline bench, or even just a basic flat one but not too worried about that yet.

Tempura said:

...or my jokes are crap.

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We have a joker in our skate group, I didn't get his jokes either, not after few days. I just pretend that I did and laugh! Definitely not your fault. There's no way I can know you're joking without the luxury of face-to-face conversation.

Some with weights, some with bands, some bodyweight exercises, always trying to beat previous personal records. Doesn't compare to a gym but my home setup is looking alright.

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In some ways, they are better than those gym machines.

Lifting free weights, bodyweight exercise/calisthenics also develops "muscle memory" for maintaining balance and correct posture which you can't get from using gym machines.

In any case, you seem to be fast with skates so that counts for something!

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Not just for exercise but I'm hoping it also re-wires my brain. I think the activity is complex enough to serve as both mental and physical therapy for me.

Study: Diets Rich in Plant-Based Foods Tied to Healthy Aging​

Akita Suggagaki said:

Study: Diets Rich in Plant-Based Foods Tied to Healthy Aging​

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2833402?guestAccessKey=53a37737-478b-4a12-b38b-d53a9d13ba37&utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jama&utm_content=olf&utm_term=042525&adv=000003146231

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Ooooh yeeeah! Here come my chocolates, ice creams, chips and french fries, full of sugar and seed oils!

Just kidding.

"A longitudinal study suggests that a diet rich in plant-based foods, with a moderate intake of healthful animal-based foods, could support healthy aging."
Eating basically everything (both plant based and animal based), but fresh or minimally processed. If people also do not smoke, do not drink alcohol, exercise, sleep well and walk away from stress, they will surely age much better than the majority of people.

However, if somebody wants to make it perfect, he/she must individualize the diet (and supplements) to their individual needs and lifestyle, allergies, bloodwork etc. A generally healthy diet on average is not the best one for everybody and it also depends on the quality of soil, on the chemicals used on plants, heavy metals, oxalates content, if somebody suffers from IBS, migraines, injuries etc.

trophy33 said:

However, if somebody wants to make it perfect, he/she must individualize the diet (and supplements) to their individual needs and lifestyle, allergies, bloodwork etc. A generally healthy diet on average is not the best one for everybody and it also depends on the quality of soil, on the chemicals used on plants, heavy metals, oxalates content, if somebody suffers from IBS, migraines, injuries etc.

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For sure, tomato doesn't do well with me. If I ate enough of it, I get migraines and sometimes even diarrhea.

However, since I've greatly reduced my daily water intake (max 4 glasses/day, including the water in my food and beverages), my problems with tomato disappeared. No more headaches, no more diarrhea.

Or maybe...It's water than I'm allergic to, not tomato!

I have an almost similar problem with coffee. Dramatically reducing the amount of coffee I drink solved the problem as well.

Having a place for accountability is great, I have a great workout plan, but my motivation is crap. I've looking for someone to keep me accountable. Find rewards that work for doing a good job; because my personality is very black and white (all or nothing) disapline always was a bigger motivator than rewards. So who know what I really need.

Ice cream is not plant-based, unless it is a product labeled non-dairy. Anyway, I myself am eating the very healthy way. Exercise is something else. I do not have any exercise routine at all. I walk, a whole lot, more than others, and vigorously, and barefoot, and I have a lot of strength there. But nothing for upper body exercise, other than the weight of groceries I carry in a strapped bag back home a couple of miles, with my right hand. It has the exercise, my left hand can't do that. But, I am already old, and do not have any place with exercise even a little possible. I have issues to my lungs, already small and not much I can do about them, with COPD, I just can do what is possible for me. So, I will talk a lot about healthy eating. Or, if you want, I can go on a lot about the healthiness of walking barefoot.

FredVB said:

I walk, a whole lot, more than others, and vigorously, and barefoot, and I have a lot of strength there.

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If you can do that, you can also do upper body strength workouts.

Strength workouts or exercise if done right are anaerobic exercises, does not require lots of oxygen so it didn't matter if you have weak lungs. And if you can walk vigorously, you have more than enough lung capacity for strength exercises.

However, strength exercises would require a normally-functioning heart.

And strength exercises can be just few, quick repetitions at a time with as much break period you need in between. You can start with small weights and progressively increase the weight in a matter of weeks. There's no need to make it hard and only add weights when you feel you've gotten strong enough for the heavier set of weights or your current set of weights have become too easy.

You can do those exercises in your own home even if small and cramped like ours. It's enough for calisthenics and some dumbbell sets as they only take very little room.

Or, if you want, I can go on a lot about the healthiness of walking barefoot.

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I can do it inside our house....But NOT oudoors! Oh no. We have broken glass and waste/sewer water on the roads and sidewalks everywhere. Usually from vehicle collisions which is very frequent due to very crowded city and people just throwing bottles and draining waste water on the streets.

I'd probably get sick from infections with major health risks walking barefoot outdoors negating any potential health benefits!

LastDaysJames said:

Having a place for accountability is great, I have a great workout plan, but my motivation is crap. I've looking for someone to keep me accountable. Find rewards that work for doing a good job; because my personality is very black and white (all or nothing) disapline always was a bigger motivator than rewards. So who know what I really need.

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Prayer is the best motivation you can have. Make a list of your goals health wise and commit them to the Lord instead. Ask for His help with consistency and staying accountable. There’s a growing genre of faith based titles on the subject which may be helpful. The more you see your body as a temple and align its care with your purpose (the reason you’re here) the less you’ll be inclined to do otherwise. Kingdom work requires good health with obvious caveats of course. We shouldn’t be saddling ourselves with maladies due to neglect or excess. Hence the suggestion. Good luck.

~bella

timewerx said:

If you can do that, you can also do upper body strength workouts.

Strength workouts or exercise if done right are anaerobic exercises, does not require lots of oxygen so it didn't matter if you have weak lungs. And if you can walk vigorously, you have more than enough lung capacity for strength exercises.

However, strength exercises would require a normally-functioning heart.

And strength exercises can be just few, quick repetitions at a time with as much break period you need in between. You can start with small weights and progressively increase the weight in a matter of weeks. There's no need to make it hard and only add weights when you feel you've gotten strong enough for the heavier set of weights or your current set of weights have become too easy.

You can do those exercises in your own home even if small and cramped like ours. It's enough for calisthenics and some dumbbell sets as they only take very little room.


I can do it inside our house....But NOT oudoors! Oh no. We have broken glass and waste/sewer water on the roads and sidewalks everywhere. Usually from vehicle collisions which is very frequent due to very crowded city and people just throwing bottles and draining waste water on the streets.

I'd probably get sick from infections with major health risks walking barefoot outdoors negating any potential health benefits!

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I can, to limited extent. I will try starting again on some such exercising, with my limited means, yet will not increase much in any way, being an older adult.

It is just that I have been walking this way a long time, and increased doing this vigorously. I have gone over twenty thousand miles barefoot, over many surfaces, in city environment and hiking even along mountain trails. I would not get any to believe much about what I say of this without them watching me. So I am on the other side. I have heard the negative things all along already, I am saying from first hand experience it really is better, but it is something to work up to, as feet handle more and more.

And with being told about broken glass, certainly watching out helps, I am not talking about going recklessly, but actually glass from cars do not all break up in sharp pieces, there are windows designed to not do that. And sharp pieces laying exposed for a few weeks really lose their sharpness.

Enough about that. For real healthiness, I would be talking about the good ways to be eating. I will answer anything about that. Avoid cancers and strokes and heart attacks, maybe reverse the direction to those.

FredVB said:

And with being told about broken glass, certainly watching out helps, I am not talking about going recklessly, but actually glass from cars do not all break up in sharp pieces, there are windows designed to not do that. And sharp pieces laying exposed for a few weeks really lose their sharpness.

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It's a privilege to be able to run or walk around outdoors bare foot. I just don't think it's safe to do everywhere in the world especially in very crowded, depressed and squalid areas and also places where people also tend to have no care keeping things neat and tidy around them.

I can only spend time going barefoot within our apartment. Our balcony is made of stone just like the rest of the building if you're thinking of "grounding". I spend time walking around and also doing strength workouts barefoot on the balcony 1 hr each day. It's the best I can do given the circumstances but I actually don't do it for health reasons. It just feels good on the feet.

timewerx said:

It's a privilege to be able to run or walk around outdoors bare foot. I just don't think it's safe to do everywhere in the world especially in very crowded, depressed and squalid areas and also places where people also tend to have no care keeping things neat and tidy around them.

I can only spend time going barefoot within our apartment. Our balcony is made of stone just like the rest of the building if you're thinking of "grounding". I spend time walking around and also doing strength workouts barefoot on the balcony 1 hr each day. It's the best I can do given the circumstances but I actually don't do it for health reasons. It just feels good on the feet.

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I meant to move on from this, I do see there are more relevant things to well-being.

I know there are many who will just trust what worries them. We must all have heard such things, and we internalize those, including staying in our foot coffins so much of the time. I heard all those things still such as mentioned above, and everything else used for objections, all along as I started going barefoot everywhere almost nineteen years ago, and for so long afterward, but it did not stop me, and I managed going further and further. They were wrong. My feet, and my whole being, benefitted. I asked God when I started walking barefoot, that I might have God with me and protecting me, but if it was not right, I would find out soon and stop this if it was contrary to what is from God, rather than doing this was from God as I believed it was. Others had done this and I heard about it, and wanted my feet which were in poor shape to benefit from it too. And they did, beyond all expectations, soon after and long since. You can say all the bad things about it, but you do not have the experience of going barefoot so much, do you? And who do you hear that has more experience than me? I am the professional about it now, my feet are like superfeet in comparison to others. You would have to watch me going for a long time to understand, still.

FredVB said:

I asked God when I started walking barefoot, that I might have God with me and protecting me, but if it was not right, I would find out soon and stop this if it was contrary to what is from God

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God have always been concerned about my health and always tells me what to do to stay healthy.

I actually became interested in barefoot running just a few years ago. I even trained to run barefoot and got really good and very efficient at the forefoot strike running technique. But God kept silent about it.

God wanted me instead to take up, learn, and get good at inline skating (rollerblading) more than anything else.

Inline skating not even crossed my mind at that time and I even thought it's ridiculous.

Incredibly, the sport not only improved my physical fitness, it also gained me new friends. I did not have friends for a long time because it's not easy for me to make friends. Skating made it possible for me to have friends again and it seems to be having the most positive benefit to my health atm.

No way I could have foreseen it but God knew.

I'm not saying God disapproves of barefoot running. God simply wants me to do something else and probably because I'd be healthier skating with friends than barefoot running alone (because nobody runs barefoot where I live and due to very dirty/contaminated environment).

timewerx said:

God have always been concerned about my health and always tells me what to do to stay healthy.

I actually became interested in barefoot running just a few years ago. I even trained to run barefoot and got really good and very efficient at the forefoot strike running technique. But God kept silent about it.

God wanted me instead to take up, learn, and get good at inline skating (rollerblading) more than anything else.

Inline skating not even crossed my mind at that time and I even thought it's ridiculous.

Incredibly, the sport not only improved my physical fitness, it also gained me new friends. I did not have friends for a long time because it's not easy for me to make friends. Skating made it possible for me to have friends again and it seems to be having the most positive benefit to my health atm.

No way I could have foreseen it but God knew.

I'm not saying God disapproves of barefoot running. God simply wants me to do something else and probably because I'd be healthier skating with friends than barefoot running alone (because nobody runs barefoot where I live and due to very dirty/contaminated environment).

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I am generally misunderstood, it really seems I must come to accept that fully. I talk about what I find is better. Others hear from me that I am telling them what to do. When I say things are better, in the ways I talk about, I am not telling anyone what to do. Everyone has to make up their own mind about anything. I just give information to help with that. Maybe it will be ignored. That comes with this way. But I respond about it only if I hear the same errors about it being said.

I am in a privileged place? I do not know that is so, you don't either. I go barefoot everywhere, long distances, there are no surfaces stopping me. So I have experienced a lot. My feet are made tough enough to do this, and more so with many years doing this now. Sure, feet are too soft and vulnerable to start with when having worn shoes for so long. Mine were then, and they were still deformed from using shoes so much up until then. Maybe third world conditions are more squalid and I might think differently, maybe you are not in America. But anywhere in urban America I can do this, and most anywhere in the country, certainly along any paths.

And where I am, there are no others going barefoot. There is no privilege of location in that. I still do this, though I do it alone, but for some previous communication online with others who knew about doing this. I have been asked about it, and I have given answers, many times.

I am not talking about barefoot running but it really is not excluded. With running or walking use of the forefoot is important. Shoes actually make the wearer walk wrong, that way is not the design for the way we should, and would, with generally going barefoot. But, with my poor lungs, I can't run far. I can run, like in sprinting fast across a street, even a wide one. I just can't run much further than that. I can walk fast, even faster than I ever did before, even though I am now old, but I recognize there is a limit to going faster, and it is just because of my lungs. I can maintain a short burst of speed even walking. I really mean it saying I never walked so fast before. I know why. My feet handle everything, and they are not dragging the weight of shoes or anything on them. This changed so much of everything. Even my brain seems reorganized.

Yes, I did feel God was guiding me to this, I know of benefits with this, which I do say to others, and I am not talking about grounding at all. So I will answer about this.

But, there are other things for health that I want to talk about. How about that? Like what is healthy with eating? Can you prevent heart attacks, strokes, and cancers, and much more? And surely there are other healthy ways.

FredVB said:

Maybe third world conditions are more squalid and I might think differently, maybe you are not in America.

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Yes I do live in third world and around me is far more squalid than you can imagine and it smells and it smells awful. I have to travel at least 40 miles from where I live in every direction to get out of urban areas and out of those horrible smells.

I am generally misunderstood

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It probably wasn't obvious to you that I live in third world at first.

We simply have different perspective on the subject. I've been to USA many years ago. It's a very clean place compared to where I live even in downtown areas in big cities like Atlanta or LA. I wouldn't object to going around barefoot everywhere if you live in USA.

I have also experienced going around barefoot in much nicer places (not in USA) many years ago and it felt great.

Ironically, the park nearest my place is less contaminated enough to run barefoot but I'd rather skate in the time I have in the parks. Skating is simply more fun for me and allows me so socialize with other skaters.

I actually know so much the experience of going around barefoot. It's like stepping into a magical world. Skating feels the same for me but I wouldn't recommend skating to everyone because it's simply not for everyone.

Going barefoot has grown in popularity in homesteading circles. Several do it on the property and wear shoes elsewhere. You’ll encounter aficionados on discussions related to forest bathing. I’m not recommending the latter but it usually includes conversations along those lines.

~bella

FredVB said:

But, there are other things for health that I want to talk about. How about that? Like what is healthy with eating? Can you prevent heart attacks, strokes, and cancers, and much more? And surely there are other healthy ways.

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My main diet is sardines, rice, bread, tiny portions of pickles and corn, and milk/cheese on every meal.

I also add brown sugar on my milk beverages.

However, the diet may not be healthy without calorie restriction and without daily exercise.

timewerx said:

My main diet is sardines, rice, bread, tiny portions of pickles and corn, and milk/cheese on every meal.

I also add brown sugar on my milk beverages.

However, the diet may not be healthy without calorie restriction and without daily exercise.

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Well now I understand your experience could be very different, I have been to different places in America and I have been in a few places in Europe and would go barefoot in any of those places, knowing what I know now. There are places I could not go barefoot, I acknowledge, but they are places I am pretty sure I would not be going to at all, such as the Arctic, or the Antarctic, places. I have handled many surfaces, in city environments and in places far from any city. But maybe in some countries I would not. Where it is possible I still do much better and benefit with going barefoot.

Now, about the healthy eating. My way has totally changed from the way I was eating decades ago, the most profound change nine years ago. Have you heard of this site and would you maybe consider it?
I found the book, which started this for me quickly, and saw the documentary soon afterward, and even rewatched it later on, before giving the site a short look.
There really are the ways to not get cancers, heart attacks or strokes, and various other problems to health or well-being, and even to help reverse some of those already acquired. Variety is included and good for us.

FredVB said:

Well now I understand your experience could be very different, I have been to different places in America and I have been in a few places in Europe and would go barefoot in any of those places, knowing what I know now. There are places I could not go barefoot, I acknowledge, but they are places I am pretty sure I would not be going to at all, such as the Arctic, or the Antarctic, places. I have handled many surfaces, in city environments and in places far from any city. But maybe in some countries I would not. Where it is possible I still do much better and benefit with going barefoot.

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I'm better adapted to the heat, growing in a climate where temperatures often gets above 100 F most times of the year. My feet can handle temperatures of over 140 F barefoot on sun-bathed pavement but starts to get uncomfortable and too cold under 60 F.

Now, about the healthy eating. My way has totally changed from the way I was eating decades ago, the most profound change nine years ago. Have you heard of this site and would you maybe consider it?

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I agree with the diet. However, all things considered like cost and the demands of skating and other high intensity strength workouts, omnivorous diet with fish (sardines) as the main source of meat seems to be the the best diet for me. I also do intermittent fasting (IF) I don't recommend my diet to anybody else though.

I'm in incredibly good state of health though despite far from perfect diet and high levels of stress. Exercise, calorie, and fluid restriction seems to be a major factor. The Holy Spirit made do those things. I used to have hypertension and prediabetes and now all symptoms are completely gone.