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I will scientifically prove the existence of God to you

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Here's an example from AI Overview, which I believe, according to you, can [conveniently] take a hike:

The collapse of the Florida International University (FIU) pedestrian bridge was a consequence of design errors and can be considered a scientific disaster. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) determined that the bridge's collapse was due to load and capacity calculation errors made by the design firm, FIGG Bridge Engineers, Inc.. These errors led to a critical section of the bridge failing, resulting in its collapse.
I think that was an "engineering" error.
 
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QV please:

The Hindenburg disaster can be considered a scientific disaster due to the involvement of flammable hydrogen gas, static electricity, and potentially a lightning strike or other electrical discharge. The event highlights the dangers of using flammable gases in large, moving vehicles, especially in combination with inclement weather and the potential for electrical discharges.

While the L'Aquila earthquake was a tragic natural disaster that caused significant loss of life and damage, it's not accurately described as a "scientific disaster" in the sense of a failure of scientific understanding or prediction. The earthquake itself was a natural event, and the scientific community has learned valuable lessons from it, leading to improved seismic hazard assessments and building practices. However, the earthquake did highlight some challenges in communication and risk assessment, and the convictions of scientists for manslaughter have sparked controversy and ongoing debate.

And you've been shown why you're thinking of these as 'scientific' is incorrect on each one.

Just because AI agrees with you does not mean you are correct.
 
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How was it not an engineering error, AV? Pray-tell, do enlighten us all.

Since engineering is a facet of ...

Well, let's let AI explain it:

Yes, engineering can be considered a facet of science, specifically an applied science. While science focuses on discovering and understanding the natural world, engineering applies that knowledge to solve practical problems and create new technologies. Essentially, engineering uses scientific principles to design and build things.

And for the record, I never said it wasn't an engineering error.

It was an error in engineering.
 
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Since engineering is a facet of ...

Well, let's let AI explain it:

Yes, engineering can be considered a facet of science, specifically an applied science. While science focuses on discovering and understanding the natural world, engineering applies that knowledge to solve practical problems and create new technologies. Essentially, engineering uses scientific principles to design and build things.

And for the record, I never said it wasn't an engineering error.

It was an error in engineering.

And the difference of 'engineering error' and 'error of engineering' is...?
 
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Warden, if you Google "List of scientific disasters," the following examples come up:
  • Chernobyl disaster
  • 2010 Haiti earthquake
  • Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Well, that settles it then!! Google says it, so it must be true!! :eek:
 
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And the difference of 'engineering error' and 'error of engineering' is...?

None that I know of.

It was an engineering disaster.

Ergo, a scientific disaster.

You know ... guilt by association.
 
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Well that's AI Overview and Google you've poo-pooed now.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

You don't get how AI Overview and Google give you the answers you get, do you? I wouldn't be surprised if you do.

Big hint: there was a lot more going on with Chernobyl than just 'science' being the cause, the 2010 Haitian earthquake didn't show that science was to blame just that there are problems with predicting earthquakes, and as for Deepwater horizon... well, post #510 says it all from you really.
 
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Since engineering is technically a facet of science, AV considers it science's fault that the bridge collapsed.
Technically, if one wants to dig deeper, the collapse of said bridge was a math error.
 
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AV doesn't care. He just wants to bash science put it in its place.

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