A militarized conspiracy theorist group believes NWS weather radars are ‘weather weapons’ and is trying to destroy them

essentialsaltes · Tuesday at 3:13 PM

National Weather Service offices around the country are on guard after recent threats to agency infrastructure — specifically Doppler weather radars — from a violent militia-style group, emails from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s security office show.

The group Veterans on Patrol, which the Southern Poverty Law Center defines as an anti-government militia organization, views the NWS’ network of Doppler radars as “weather weapons,” according to an internal NOAA email sent Monday and seen by CNN.

Previously in Veterans on Patrol:

essentialsaltes said:
What she and others didn’t know yet was that Veterans on Patrol is an anti-government group steeped in conspiracy theories and that ... the group was motivated to come to this small town because its members believed that the government was using the hurricane to move people here off lithium-rich land and stop them from getting it back, according to the group’s posts on Telegram, the messaging service.

On Sept. 29, an X user suggested that the supposed presence of lithium provided a motive for someone to “modify” the storm, to steal access to the mineral.

Groups such as Veterans on Patrol soon picked it up. “Isn’t it ironic how much lithium is available in the areas targeted by Helene?” the group asked in a Sept. 30 Telegram post.

[On Oct. 3, the group called for volunteers] “if you are willing to mobilize with North Carolina families and remove FEMA from North Carolina.”

Belk · Tuesday at 3:55 PM

essentialsaltes said:
National Weather Service offices around the country are on guard after recent threats to agency infrastructure — specifically Doppler weather radars — from a violent militia-style group, emails from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s security office show.

The group Veterans on Patrol, which the Southern Poverty Law Center defines as an anti-government militia organization, views the NWS’ network of Doppler radars as “weather weapons,” according to an internal NOAA email sent Monday and seen by CNN.

Previously in Veterans on Patrol:

DaisyDay · Wednesday at 12:17 PM

I remember MTG going on about how Democrats control the weather.

‘Check yourself, Marjorie Taylor Greene’: Outrage erupts as she apparently blames Dems for hurricane

Marjorie Taylor Greene and other Republicans have made outlandish and baseless statements in the wake of the destruction of Hurricane Helene, further fueling political tensions.

www.msnbc.com

durangodawood · Wednesday at 1:44 PM

I always knew there was more to those white balls than meets the eye.

BCP1928 · Wednesday at 1:46 PM

durangodawood said:
I always knew there was more to those white balls than meets the eye.

Don't fire until you see the white balls of their eyes.

DaisyDay · Wednesday at 2:56 PM

durangodawood said:
I always knew there was more to those white balls than meets the eye.

When I was a kid in Houston, our utility room had a spigot for natural gas. My brother once filled a weather balloon with it to the point where the balloon just hovered wherever you let go of it. I remember being surprised how much force it had when thrown at a sibling.

durangodawood · Wednesday at 3:16 PM

DaisyDay said:
When I was a kid in Houston, our utility room had a spigot for natural gas. My brother once filled a weather balloon with it to the point where the balloon just hovered wherever you let go of it. I remember being surprised how much force it had when thrown at a sibling.

Methane spigot. Sounds insane. Another thing to add to the "when we were growing up......!" list to throw at the young adults of today.

DaisyDay · Wednesday at 3:33 PM

durangodawood said:
Methane spigot. Sounds insane. Another thing to add to the "when we were growing up......!" list to throw at the young adults of today.

You know, it probably wasn't methane, but natural gas - I'm not all that clear on the difference. Our street lights were gas.

durangodawood · Wednesday at 3:48 PM

DaisyDay said:
You know, it probably wasn't methane, but natural gas - I'm not all that clear on the difference. Our street lights were gas.

Thats pretty much methane plus other traces of stuff.

What other tales do you have from Victorian London?

Aryeh Jay · Wednesday at 4:13 PM

durangodawood said:
Thats pretty much methane plus other traces of stuff.

What other tales do you have from Victorian London?

I remember discussing natural gas with someone and they kept saying it was a non renewable resource and I would respond that it's 94% methane, like what is comming up from the landfill.

durangodawood · Wednesday at 4:23 PM

Aryeh Jay said:
I remember discussing natural gas with someone and they kept saying it was a non renewable resource and I would respond that it's 94% methane, like what is comming up from the landfill.

Yes the famous cow farts too. I dont think its renewable at our current use rate. But Im guessing here.

Aryeh Jay · Wednesday at 4:25 PM

durangodawood said:
Yes the famous cow farts too. I dont think its renewable at our current use rate. But Im guessing here.

If they can make a machine to milk cows 24/7, they gotta be able to make one that collects the farts.

"Gas pressure is dropping fast sir!" "Increase the corn,NOW!"

Gregory Thompson · Wednesday at 4:28 PM

essentialsaltes said:
National Weather Service offices around the country are on guard after recent threats to agency infrastructure — specifically Doppler weather radars — from a violent militia-style group, emails from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s security office show.

The group Veterans on Patrol, which the Southern Poverty Law Center defines as an anti-government militia organization, views the NWS’ network of Doppler radars as “weather weapons,” according to an internal NOAA email sent Monday and seen by CNN.

Previously in Veterans on Patrol:

Seems to be a result of electing a conspiracy theorist as a president. If one can succeed, why not another?

durangodawood · Wednesday at 4:39 PM

Gregory Thompson said:
Seems to be a result of electing a conspiracy theorist as a president. If one can succeed, why not another?

More likely the other way round. People's thinking was getting muddled by addictive ideological junk food media for decades prior. This primed them to buy a salesman's sugar high quick fix promises.

DaisyDay · Wednesday at 5:15 PM

durangodawood said:
Thats pretty much methane plus other traces of stuff.

What other tales do you have from Victorian London?

The tenement in Hell's Kitchen was built in the 1890s. It used to be gaslit and a hundred years later, the pipes were still live, though unused.

Aryeh Jay · Wednesday at 5:18 PM

DaisyDay said:
The tenement in Hell's Kitchen was built in the 1890s. It used to be gaslit and a hundred years later, the pipes were still live, though unused.

I thought Daniel Day Lewis and Leonardo DeCaprio destroyed that place.

FireDragon76 · Thursday at 6:28 AM

A Weather Dominator? Somebody has been watching too many reruns of GI Joe...

ThatRobGuy · Thursday at 7:53 AM

Like with other conspiracy theories, I suspect it's rooted in the same sentiments...

The underlying sentiment being, that for a lot of folks, there's something discomforting about the the reality that bad things can randomly happen, so there's something comforting about feeling like they have an explanation (even if it's not a good one) for many folks because if there's "an answer" than that means there's something they can do to prevent it.

Just as an example, take for instance the conspiracy theory about GMOs causing cancer.

The real answer of "many cancers are seemingly random and pop up in people for reasons we don't fully understand yet" is scary for a lot of people and leaves them feeling powerless over the situation. Because that means they could try to do everything right, and wake up tomorrow with an pain in their abdomen that ends up being cancer.

However, the conspiracy answer of "It's the GMO foods that are causing the cancers" provides them with at least some sense of comfort because even though the notion indicates something nefarious, it still gives them a sense of control over the situation and the feeling of "Since I know what's causing it, there's something I can do about it, I can buy non-GMO foods to protect myself"

durangodawood · Thursday at 8:11 AM

ThatRobGuy said:
Like with other conspiracy theories, I suspect it's rooted in the same sentiments...

The underlying sentiment being, that for a lot of folks, there's something discomforting about the the reality that bad things can randomly happen, so there's something comforting about feeling like they have an explanation (even if it's not a good one) for many folks because if there's "an answer" than that means there's something they can do to prevent it.

Just as an example, take for instance the conspiracy theory about GMOs causing cancer.

The real answer of "many cancers are seemingly random and pop up in people for reasons we don't fully understand yet" is scary for a lot of people and leaves them feeling powerless over the situation. Because that means they could try to do everything right, and wake up tomorrow with an pain in their abdomen that ends up being cancer.

However, the conspiracy answer of "It's the GMO foods that are causing the cancers" provides them with at least some sense of comfort because even though the notion indicates something nefarious, it still gives them a sense of control over the situation and the feeling of "Since I know what's causing it, there's something I can do about it, I can buy non-GMO foods to protect myself"

Yeah, people long for a story - especially if it includes an identifiable villain. If reality doesnt provide a story, they will make one up.

Laodicean60 · Thursday at 8:45 AM

essentialsaltes said:
Previously in Veterans on Patrol:

I tried to look for information on the link to their page, and no mention of weather, weapons, or NWS was found when searched for. I find it hard to believe that veterans, even infantry folk, haven't seen a radar.

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