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Some say he is the antiChrist while others say he is a new cult leader...
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I do find the names he uses a bit blasphemous but what else would you expect...Abdullah Hashem (servant of allah the name) and Aba al-Sadiq (The righteous father)
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Yes and along with all his other outrageous statements is giving him all the attention he needs.
It won't be long before we see him getting around in a flash car and living in a huge mansion.
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Have seen some of his stuff. doctrinally he's trying to do Chrislam, probably because of his upbringing by 2 parents "unequally yoked"
as a result his doctrines are hybridized between the two and heretical to both.
Being in such a position it could be hard to reconcile what you've been taught to believe being forced to choose 1 as being true, the other being a lie, going atheist and saying neither is true, or if he clings to his hybrizied but heretical doctrines, he ends up an outcast, and as a result, ends up thinking maybe everyone else is wrong, he's right, and so he's the true messenger of God.
That's how his delusion got fueled I believe.
However coming forward like this.. well.. Salman Rushdie and Mar Mari Emmanuel both lost their right eyes to Muslim attackers, Salman Rushdie for writing "the Satanic Verses" basically implying that Satan was connected with the writing of the Qur'an (and he was the primary author), and Mar Mari Emmanuel.. I guess for being a Christian Orthodox Bishop coming from an Islamic dominated part of the world before immigrating to Australia and they don't take kindly to Arabic speaking Christians or something.
I expect a Muslim is going to try to kill him for what he is saying.
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I would be tempted to say what he is preaching is more or less in keeping with Islam. Also, it seems like this man is claiming to be the Mahdi, or to represent him, which, though bold a thing to say, is consistent with Islamic teaching. The Mahdi is not the anti-Christ.
Islam has a prominent place for Jesus, and accepts that he is the Messiah, was born of a virgin, was a prophet of God, very much like Christian belief, but they reject the doctrine of the Trinity, and they have a more prominent role for Jesus, or Isa, as they call him, in a literal battle with the anti-Christ, in more vivid detail than what traditional Christians preach (I have been to many traditional churches and never heard the notion that Jesus literally engages in a holy war with the anti-Christ on earth, for instance).
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Teaching that Jesus died and resurrected is heretical to Islam.
Teaching that Jesus was "God in creation" is heretical to Islam.
Like he borrows that from what he has been taught by his Christian mother.
he "balances it out" from what he was taught by his Muslim father by claiming that Muhammad is also God in creation, that is God in flesh walking on Earth. That is Heretical to both Islam and Christianity, but that is what he said. He is trying to marry Islam to Christianity. He justifies it by identifying Muhammad as the Comforter, and the Comforter is the Holy Spirit.
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Much of that is true, but the general outline of what he presents is definitely more Islamic than Christian. And there are some sects of Islam that use some really exalted titles for Muhammed.
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Don't know for sure but could be this guy Douggg: Ahmed al-Hasan
Found him on wikipedia when looking up Ahmadi religion of peace and light.
Interesting story between these two men.
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Yes, I think you are right, bniffty24.
From what I read on Wikipedia, Ahmed al-Hasan claims to be a fore-runner to prepare for the Mahdi. Basically, the person is a false prophet. The whole Muslim system and eschatology is very confusing.
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Correct, but this particular guy goes so far as to because Jesus said the Comforter is the Holy Ghost, and if Muhammad is called the Comforter.. then Muhammad must be the Holy Ghost and thus identifies Muhammad as "God in Creation. He's logicing his way through both Islamic doctrine and Christian doctrine as parts of a whole together and as a result coming to conclusions that Islam would reject.
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True, but some have argued the Quran is more ambivalent, and could be interpreted differently.
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so here's the real rub though.
This guy does profess that Jesus died and resurrected
and professes that Jesus is "God in Creation"
so where does that put him. According to John, that qualifies him as having a spirit of God not spirit of Antichrist.
but I mean he's got so much other garbage doctrine brought over from Islam.
like I can't even call this guy "an" Antichrist.. because he says Jesus is God.
but I don't think I can call him brother because I'm sure a lot of his other doctrines on Jesus are wrong.
but I mean does it count as confessing the Lord Jesus and believing in his heart that God rose Him from the dead?
This guy does profess that Jesus died and resurrected
and professes that Jesus is "God in Creation"
so where does that put him. According to John, that qualifies him as having a spirit of God not spirit of Antichrist.
but I mean he's got so much other garbage doctrine brought over from Islam.
like I can't even call this guy "an" Antichrist.. because he says Jesus is God.
but I don't think I can call him brother because I'm sure a lot of his other doctrines on Jesus are wrong.
but I mean does it count as confessing the Lord Jesus and believing in his heart that God rose Him from the dead?
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he doesn't claim to be Christ though. this guy affirms Jesus is the Christ and that Jesus was God in creation.
Though now that I have seen more of this guy's theology I think I can be more sure of where he is though.
The way he sees it. God breathed His holy spirit into Adam, and in Islamic tradition the angels were commanded to worship Adam. Not Adam's flesh, but the spirit of God in Adam.
so to this guy, that qualifies Adam as being "God in Creation", and that there's 1 man at a time that is "God in Creation" having the Holy Spirit inside him, but only one person at a time. So he affirms that Jesus had God's Holy Spirit.........
but this rejects that Jesus was the Son of God. so he is closer to traditional Islam.. with the one exception being that people who have God's Holy Spirit in them can be considered God in Creation. He also attributes this status to many of the prophets, and to Muhammad, and now himself.
So now I can consider him a spirit of Antichrist because he only believes that God was spirit inside Jesus... not Jesus was God in the Flesh.
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