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US orders French companies to comply with Trump's diversity ban
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Trump shouldn't expect to determine domestic policy in other countries. French companies have to abide by French laws.
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The key phrase is "with U.S. government contracts". If you want to keep your contract, you comply.
Of course this sucks. I work for a defense contractor. They cancelled Lunar New Year festivities to appear to be compliant with the anti-DEI EO. I think they are cowards...but, hey, money is money. It might be fair if they cancel Xmas, but that ain't gonna happen.
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In the long term, French companies have all sorts of incentives to simply cut ties with the US government. France has an independent defense industry of their own, and their strategic military doctrine isn't dependent on US support.
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The French have released a statement:
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Plus, there are about to be tons of new contracts coming in from EU countries with the new EU rearmament initiative. They won't be hurting for work. On the other hand, this could harm US military readiness, depending on what, precisely, these French companies supply. At minimum, they'll need to spin up production elsewhere to take up the slack, and if the widget is something proprietary, or that US companies have no experience making, that could take a while.
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Why is Trump trying to start trouble with other countries, included America? I'm not sure why this criminal is allowed in the White House. We need to fiv this nightmare.
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well they did say they wanted to bring back us Jobs, said nothing about keeping non us jobs. Though ironicly this could cost a ton of US jobs short term.
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maybe he's playing a game, "How far can I go before I'm impeached, and or a revolution."
wich brings a thought to me...with how corrupt and incompetent his cabinet is, who ends up the president if him and vance are impeached? Do we just get another election.
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I suspect that the order of succession would be followed which means the speaker of the house would become president. I could be wrong
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25Th Amendment - the order of succession is:
President
Vice President
Speaker of the House of Representatives (currently Mike Johnson)
President pro tempore of the Senate (Charles Grassley)
and then down the list of secretaries. by the seniority of the department they run
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The order, as specified by the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, is:
President
Vice President
Speaker of the House
President pro tempore of the Senate (a fancy way of saying "Senate Majority Leader")
After that we go through the 15 secretaries in the order the positions were created: Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, and then so on until finally Secretary of Homeland Security. It should be noted that, except for Vice President, it is possible for someone to achieve one of those positions while being ineligible for the presidency, e.g. not being a natural born citizen. In such a case, they are skipped over in the line of succession.
But what happens if president, vice president, and all of the rest die or are ineligible? I don't think there actually is any mechanism for that; they really should specify that. It's unlikely for it to happen, especially given that in any gathering where all of them are expected to be present, they try to leave one of them out in a secure location in the off chance a bomb goes off or something and kills everyone. But even then, it's a theoretical possibility and the lack of an answer seems an oddity. Maybe there just plain is no President until the next election?
For the record, I know some legal scholars, like Akhil Amar, have argued that the inclusion of the Speaker of the House and president pro tempore of the Senate actually violates the constitution, but I don't know how good their arguments are. I guess it'll only matter if it comes up. It does seem odd to me to have them so high in the line of succession, as it means that if someone manages to assassinate president and vice president, it could flip the entire government on its head if the Speaker of the House is of the opposing party.
But, in the case of your specific question, should President and Vice President die or leave office, then it would be the Speaker of the House (Mike Johnson) who becomes President, or--if someone is able to win in court on the argument that the inclusion of Speaker of the House and president pro tempore of the Senate is unconstitutional--the Secretary of State (right now Marco Rubio).
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Your list is accurate, but it doesn't come from the 25h Amendment. The actual line of succession beyond the Vice President isn't in the 25th Amendment, but is in the Presidential Succession Act (which has been amended several times, most recently in 1947). The 25th Amendment, when it comes to the line of succession, really only specifies that should the President leave office (resignation, death, or impeachment), the Vice President becomes President, when before there was some question about whether they technically become President or were just an acting President.
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