St. Louis Pride Says Anheuser-Busch Ended Sponsorship—As Corporate Support For LGBTQ Pride Celebrations Dwindles

ThatRobGuy · Mar 31, 2025

SimplyMe said:
Except you don't contradict my point. Yes, half the population in the state live in Denver, more specifically, the Front Range Urban Corridor, it shows that the Democratic majority of the state assembly is because of the more urban areas of the state. If you map out the various districts, you find that the Eastern and Western areas of the state, the large rural areas particularly on the plains, tend to be very red, with the center part of the state more blue (though even an area like Colorado Springs leans red).

So, no, I'm not saying "Every last person in a state needs to support and celebrate LGBTQ." I'm saying that when you have large portions of a state that would pass anti-LGBTQ laws, if they weren't outnumbered by the large city in the center of the state, the state is not really "one of the most progressive in the nation." Instead, Denver (like almost all large cities) is progressive, and the rural parts of the state are not.

Define "large portions"?

As of December 2023, a public (PRRI) poll indicated that 78% of Colorado residents supported same-sex marriage, with 20% opposed and 2% undecided (and that number is higher when factoring people in who may not agree with marriage, but still support anti-discrimination laws for housing, employment, and accommodations)

And with regards to the Trans aspect of that, the same polling entity (PRRI) in 2019 found that:
77% of Colorado residents supported laws protecting LGBTQ+ individuals from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations. This suggests a strong inclination toward supporting transgender rights within the broader context of LGBTQ+ protections.

To put numbers like 77-78% support in context, compare that to percentage breakdowns on other issues.

If you can get 78% of people in a state to agree on an issue, in terms of politics, that's a landslide victory.

To put it in more highlighting terms, gay rights in Colorado are more popular than the "constitutional carry" laws in Texas. (which is only around 60%)

Would anyone suggest that Texans who love guns have any legitimate or practical need to ramp up their activism/advocacy for pro-gun causes? Or would most tend to agree that they've pretty much accomplished what they were trying to accomplish, and there's not much need for pro-gun rights advocacy in Texas?

RileyG · Mar 31, 2025

A2SG said:
Granted. Though, the poster did say this:

Adults, even christian ones, go to nightclubs all the time.

-- A2SG, well, when they're open, at least....

So? I don’t care. Their life. Their decision.

RileyG · Mar 31, 2025

Pommer said:
This (alone) is not a “deal-breaker” for some.

Ehhhh, they’re 21+. No minors are present anyway.

A2SG · Mar 31, 2025

RileyG said:
So? I don’t care. Their life. Their decision.

Exactly. If they want to shove their sexuality in other people's faces, that's their right.

Just like everyone else. Well, not everyone, it would seem.

-- A2SG, and that's the rub....

A2SG · Mar 31, 2025

RileyG said:
Ehhhh, they’re 21+. No minors are present anyway.

Minors are often present, even encouraged to be, at weddings. Is that not a celebration of a sexual lifestyle?

-- A2SG, talk about shoving their sexuality in everyone else's face....

ThatRobGuy · Apr 1, 2025

A2SG said:
Minors are often present, even encouraged to be, at weddings. Is that not a celebration of a sexual lifestyle?

-- A2SG, talk about shoving their sexuality in everyone else's face....

You're not seriously comparing a standard wedding to the kinds of things demonstrated at Pride parades, are you?

I don't recall ever being at a wedding involving a leather daddy in butt-less chaps whipping someone who's wearing nipple clamps and a ball-gag. But hey, maybe I just haven't been invited to that kind of wedding.

Trying to compare the two is like comparing ballet to striptease. Sure, both are a "dance art", but one isn't appropriate for all ages.

Aryeh Jay · Apr 1, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
You're not seriously comparing a standard wedding to the kinds of things demonstrated at Pride parades, are you?

I don't recall ever being at a wedding involving a leather daddy in butt-less chaps whipping someone who's wearing nipple clamps and a ball-gag. But hey, maybe I just haven't been invited to that kind of wedding.

Trying to compare the two is like comparing ballet to striptease. Sure, both are a "dance art", but one isn't appropriate for all ages.

I'm guessing you don't get many invitations to weddings.

CaDan · Apr 1, 2025

It was always folly to believe that the forces of capital were ever on the "side" of anything except . . . well, capital.

A2SG · Apr 1, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
You're not seriously comparing a standard wedding to the kinds of things demonstrated at Pride parades, are you?

To the extent that both are shoving a sexual lifestyle in everyone else's face. Point being how that phrase can often be interpreted differently by different people. I've literally heard people call a gay couple kissing on the street, same as a hetero couple would, called shoving their sexuality in someone's face.

ThatRobGuy said:
I don't recall ever being at a wedding involving a leather daddy in butt-less chaps whipping someone who's wearing nipple clamps and a ball-gag. But hey, maybe I just haven't been invited to that kind of wedding.

I've heard of weirder ones. Can't say I've attended one, exactly, though I have attended a Star Trek themed one once. I do recall one, though, where the new couple were getting tired of the glass clinking thing, so at one point where glasses were clinked pretty severely, they stood up, kissed, started making out, then dropped below the table and bumped it a few times. Then they got back up, the bride adjusted her dress and announced, "we're done with the glass thing. Knock it off." They ignored it after that.

ThatRobGuy said:
Trying to compare the two is like comparing ballet to striptease. Sure, both are a "dance art", but one isn't appropriate for all ages.

You just missed the point I was going for.

-- A2SG, diff'rent strokes, remember....

BPPLEE · Apr 2, 2025

A2SG said:
Sure, pretend I'm in denial. That's one way to avoid answering my question about how adoption figures into what I said at all.

-- A2SG, you do you, I guess....

That’s just another distraction. Having children is not an in your face display of heterosexuality. It’s the natural order of things without which mankind would not survive

Always in His Presence · Apr 2, 2025

Seems to be a continuation of 'go woke, go broke'

A2SG · Apr 2, 2025

BPPLEE said:
That’s just another distraction. Having children is not an in your face display of heterosexuality.

It's an open display of someone's sexual lifestyle. The fact that they bring children out in public can be viewed as shoving their sexual lifestyle in other's faces, in exactly the same way that a "leather daddy in butt-less chaps whipping someone who's wearing nipple clamps and a ball-gag" is shoving his sexual lifestyle in other's faces.

The only difference is your personal preference for one lifestyle over the other.

BPPLEE said:
It’s the natural order of things without which mankind would not survive

Hey, double standards are double standards.

-- A2SG, if you want to assert your rights, you can't be surprised when someone else asserts their rights too.....

BPPLEE · Apr 3, 2025

A2SG said:
It's an open display of someone's sexual lifestyle. The fact that they bring children out in public can be viewed as shoving their sexual lifestyle in other's faces, in exactly the same way that a "leather daddy in butt-less chaps whipping someone who's wearing nipple clamps and a ball-gag" is shoving his sexual lifestyle in other's faces.

The only difference is your personal preference for one lifestyle over the other.

Hey, double standards are double standards.

-- A2SG, if you want to assert your rights, you can't be surprised when someone else asserts their rights too.....

Ridiculous

SimplyMe · Apr 3, 2025

A2SG said:
It's an open display of someone's sexual lifestyle. The fact that they bring children out in public can be viewed as shoving their sexual lifestyle in other's faces, in exactly the same way that a "leather daddy in butt-less chaps whipping someone who's wearing nipple clamps and a ball-gag" is shoving his sexual lifestyle in other's faces.

The only difference is your personal preference for one lifestyle over the other.

Hey, double standards are double standards.

-- A2SG, if you want to assert your rights, you can't be surprised when someone else asserts their rights too.....

Let's also be clear that the "leather daddy in butt-less chaps..." is not something from Gay Pride. Instead, it is something that occurs at the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco (this is where the pictures come from), which is a kink and leather celebration and keeps being falsely claimed that they come from Gay Pride events.

RileyG · Apr 3, 2025

A2SG said:
Minors are often present, even encouraged to be, at weddings. Is that not a celebration of a sexual lifestyle?

-- A2SG, talk about shoving their sexuality in everyone else's face....

No. It’s a celebration of love between a couple.

RileyG · Apr 3, 2025

A2SG said:
Exactly. If they want to shove their sexuality in other people's faces, that's their right.

Just like everyone else. Well, not everyone, it would seem.

-- A2SG, and that's the rub....

And if people don’t like it, they have a right to say so! Eh?

Pommer · Apr 3, 2025

RileyG said:
And if people don’t like it, they have a right to say so! Eh?

How many people complain about when a man & woman bring their children out in public?

BPPLEE · Apr 3, 2025

Pommer said:
How many people complain about when a man & woman bring their children out in public?

I can think of one right off the bat

RileyG · Apr 3, 2025

Pommer said:
How many people complain about when a man & woman bring their children out in public?

None. But that’s normal, eh?

A2SG · Apr 3, 2025

BPPLEE said:
Ridiculous

Only seems that way if it isn't your sexual lifestyle being shoved in someone else's face.

-- A2SG, turnabout is fair play, after all....

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