Australia is a Christian Nation

Good article.
The left has tried to de-Christianised Australia for decades, one of their tactics is importing immigrants from EVERY nation on Earth -- even nations that you didn't know exist, or those you seldom heard of, e.g. Nepal, Bhutan, Kazakhstan, Myanmar etc. And also nations that have been fighting each other, e.g. Israel & Palestine, India & Pakistan. Ridiculous and nonsensical immigration policy. Australia has become a living museum of place of worship, which is the last thing we need.

Christians in Australia.
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96.1 % in the 1901 census.
43.9 % in the 2021 census.
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Wikipedia has an informative article on..
'Christianity in Australia'.

Michie said:

Australia is in the midst of a massive identity crisis. Let me explain.

We are a country founded on the Christian faith and on Western culture.

Our founding document leads with these words, ‘Humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God.’

No one, unless you are a complete ignoramus or a member of the progressive Left, can deny that Australia is fundamentally a Christian nation.

But the Left has demonised Christianity and rejected our Western roots. So where does that leave us?

If we are not Christian… what are we?

And it’s at this point that the left shows us what nihilists they are.

They love to tear down everything that made Australia great, but they never provide an alternative.

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Australia is a Christian Nation - The Daily Declaration

Australia is in the midst of a massive identity crisis. If we want to protect everything great about Australia, then we must protect and defend our Christian identity. It is precisely because Australia is a Christian country that not every Australian has to be a Christian.

dailydeclaration.org.au

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My opinion is that there's technically no such thing as a "Christian nation". In other words one whose laws and society are built on the teachings of Christ. Nothing against Australia (I know almost nothing about Australian politics). For what it's worth, I don't believe that the US is a "Christian nation" either. If you define a nation as Christian by the amount of it's citizens who self-identify as "Christian" then the US is losing ground quickly. In the 1990 census, 90% of Americans identified as Christian. In 2020 that number was below 70%.

Chronological snobbery.

For over 40,000 years, the continent of Australia wasn't a Christian nation.

It's sad the latecomers have mostly destroyed aboriginal cultures there, but now they are so narcissistic they can't see the irony in facing the passing of their own regime into history.

FireDragon76 said:

Chronological snobbery.

For over 40,000 years, the continent of Australia wasn't a Christian nation.

It's sad the latecomers have mostly destroyed aboriginal cultures there, but now they are so narcissistic they can't see the irony in facing the passing of their own regime into history.

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Much better stated, than I can.

The obedient servants of Christ the Lord do not destroy nations of this world, We walk among them, helping whosoever shall be saved, be taken.

JEBofChristTheLord said:

Much better stated, than I can.

The obedient servants of Christ the Lord do not destroy nations of this world, We walk among them, helping whosoever shall be saved, be taken.

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Are we allowed to lead them and guide them according to Christian principles?

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

Are we allowed to lead them and guide them according to Christian principles?

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I don't know of any principles called "Christian". I know that which Christ the Lord has said, done, and asked of us. Do you have examples to suggest for your question?

JEBofChristTheLord said:

I don't know of any principles called "Christian". I know that which Christ the Lord has said, done, and asked of us. Do you have examples to suggest for your question?

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So you don't think Christian principles and morality exists? One Christian principle is to be against blasphemy or disrespect of God. Christ demonstrates in his casting out the money lenders what can be done in such an instance.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

So you don't think Christian principles and morality exists? One Christian principle is to be against blasphemy or disrespect of God. Christ demonstrates in his casting out the money lenders what can be done in such an instance.

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"To be against blasphemy or disrespect of God." No, that is not of Christ. Christ told His faithful servants, to walk away from those who practice blasphemy and open disrespect of God. He did not tell us to "be against" them, to make warfare against them, to try to force people to not do those things by whatever tactics are popular. His behavior in the Temple, was in the Temple of God, the only holy place in this world. There is no Temple of God, there is no more a holy place in this world, because there is no covenant with God involving a Temple, anymore.

JEBofChristTheLord said:

"To be against blasphemy or disrespect of God." No, that is not of Christ. Christ told His faithful servants, to walk away from those who practice blasphemy and open disrespect of God. He did not tell us to "be against" them, to make warfare against them, to try to force people to not do those things by whatever tactics are popular. His behavior in the Temple, was in the Temple of God, the only holy place in this world. There is no Temple of God, there is no more a holy place in this world, because there is no covenant with God involving a Temple, anymore.

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Where did Jesus tell us to walk away from blasphemy?

There is a difference in mindset between Australian and US Christianity. If we ignore the unsuccessful Viking settlements in Newfoundland and possibly elsewhere, the first successful British settlers were the Pilgrims, with Christianity at the core of their ethos.

Reformation USA got off to a Christian start. The first European settlement in Australia was a fleet of convicts, their guards and sailors from Britain who landed by mistake in Botany Bay instead of Sydney Harbour (although it didn't take them long to find it).

The Anglican Church was seen as part of the oppressive British establishment and therefore not necessarily held in high regard. Part of the reason Australia was settled was the American War of Independence 1775-1783. One of their complaints was being used as a dumping ground for British convicts.

In 1770, five years before the US war of independence, Captain Cook sailed up the East Coast of Australia mapping as he went and discovering Sydney Harbour in the process. So when the Brits lost their access to the US for convicts due to their penal laws of the time (in a "Christian" nation), they thought about this new "Terra Nullus" (empty land) Cook had "found" (the Dutch actually beat him to it), and decided to send the FIrst Fleet there in 1788, five years after the US war of independence finished.

To cut a long story short our experience of Christianity has never been as "patriotic" as that of the US. But Christianity was and still is the dominant theistic religion in Australia although we're becoming more secular like the rest of the western world.

In the early days of settlement Catholicism was outlawed but now the Catholic Church is easily the biggest church in Australia.

Pesonally in terms of Christianity I think God might give us a revival but if He does I think it will be centred on the Catholic Church (I'm biased of course as I'm Catholic, but that was actually a prediction by my old PROTESTANT pastor when I was still Presbyterian).

And he also thought we (Anglo-Europeans) had been sent here in a "caretaker" role, a transitional stage between the indigenous tribal society and what will almost certainly be an Asian civilisation. The question is which Asian country will take the dominant role? Looking into my crystal ball I think it will be the Japanese. I can only hope God overcomes their own resistance to Christianity in the meantime.

We've got 27 million people. To our north are 1.4 billion Chinese (Communist), 1.4 billion Indians (Hindu), 285 million Indonesians (Moslem), 123 million Japanese (Buddhist), 116 million Filipinos (Catholic) and 101 million Vietnamese (Communist). There are other Asian nations with several times our population. Nothing is surer than that our defences are going to be put to the test sooner or later.

As for Christianity being the only way to hold a society together, the Japanese have been doing pretty well without it. But they're a self disciplined race.

Of course this is only my opinion, but as Bob Dylan would have sung "...the wheel’s still in spin, And there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’..."

God is the only one who really knows what He has in mind for Australia.

the first successful British settlers were the Pilgrims, with Christianity at the core of their ethos.

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And a weird, antimissional, nationalist quasichristianity it was. Twenty years after they landed they were paying bounties for Indian heads.

GymjunkieCrusader said:

Lastly, you should feel disappointed by the fall of Christianity in a western nation. Not be pointing out the irony.

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No one who cares about quite a number of things Christ the Lord has Personally said, done, and discussed, is disappointed by the fall of the false "national christianization" which demands that unbelievers bow down in playacting hypocrisy or be persecuted and killed. Rather, we notice that the Holy Spirit of God has been taking away the power from that falsehood, quite visibly and increasingly over the last five hundred years, and we laugh at the irony God has wrought in steady preparation of His church which will have no spot or wrinkle of this world.

Godsunworthyservant said:

My opinion is that there's technically no such thing as a "Christian nation". In other words one whose laws and society are built on the teachings of Christ. Nothing against Australia (I know almost nothing about Australian politics). For what it's worth, I don't believe that the US is a "Christian nation" either. If you define a nation as Christian by the amount of it's citizens who self-identify as "Christian" then the US is losing ground quickly. In the 1990 census, 90% of Americans identified as Christian. In 2020 that number was below 70%.

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I agree. Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world. We read in Revelation of Christians in heaven praising God with these words:

“And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,” (Re 5:9 NKJV)

We get into all sorts of muddles when we start talking about a "Christian country."

While I agree that there is no such thing as a Christian country, a nation that deliberately and sincerely tries to live by Christian principles will have far fewer internal problems. I've heard it said that if Wesley hadn't carried out his mission, Britain may have had a French Revolution as there was so much dissatisfaction with the status quo.

But the devil would not leave that country alone for long. If the temptation for Christ to hurl himself off the temple was anything to go by, the devil's claim was that the kingdoms of the world were all his.

If we considert the nearly continuous warfare that has dogged the human race since its inception, from tribe to modern nation state, I can believe it.

David Lamb said:

I agree. Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world. We read in Revelation of Christians in heaven praising God with these words:

“And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,” (Re 5:9 NKJV)

We get into all sorts of muddles when we start talking about a "Christian country."

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All sorts of muddles. That's a phrase I've never heard (must be a British thing) but it certainly sums up the situation nicely. I believe the same applies when Christians try to assign God's blessing to the their own political leanings. The only time Christ commented on any political matter he said in Matthew 22:21 (KJV) "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's". Christ refused to take a stand on the issue. Instead, He reminded us that political issues were of the world and His message was of God. I think Christians today should follow Christ's lead and keep the two separate.

No nation I can think of is a Christian nation, are the majority saved? Do the majority have church membership, read the Bible everyday, etc? If not, then they are not a Christian nation.

Godsunworthyservant said:

All sorts of muddles. That's a phrase I've never heard (must be a British thing) but it certainly sums up the situation nicely. I believe the same applies when Christians try to assign God's blessing to the their own political leanings. The only time Christ commented on any political matter he said in Matthew 22:21 (KJV) "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's". Christ refused to take a stand on the issue. Instead, He reminded us that political issues were of the world and His message was of God. I think Christians today should follow Christ's lead and keep the two separate.

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This isn't a detailed account of Christian political theology, it is directly answering the question of whether it is lawful to pay taxes to Caesar. Since Caesar issues the currency, it is ultimately Caesar's to take back (something that would be obvious to any Modern Monetary theorist). Jesus is reframing the deeper issue that the Scribes and Pharisees wish to skewer Jesus with- how much can Jews participate in Roman society, without being impious or treasonous?

FireDragon76 said:

This isn't a detailed account of Christian political theology, it is directly answering the question of whether it is lawful to pay taxes to Caesar. Since Caesar issues the currency, it is ultimately Caesar's to take back (something that would be obvious to any Modern Monetary theorist). Jesus is reframing the deeper issue that the Scribes and Pharisees wish to skewer Jesus with- how much can Jews participate in Roman society, without being impious or treasonous?

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But isn't it ironic then that Christ never again spoke of political issues? He put the entire issue to rest with this one incident. What the scribes and Pharisees were doing is trying to entrap Jesus into making a political statement that would have been controversial if He answered either way. He didn't take the bait. He simply noted that political matters such as taxes were of earthly government concern but none to Him because His ministry was of Godly things. So, my question then is, do you believe that Christians should tout controversial political rhetoric on either side that, is oft times based on untruths and propaganda, at the risk of tainting their testimony as a Christian? As I've stated on many occasions, when we publicly involve ourselves in partisan politics we just might find that our neighbor who believes differently might be less receptive to the message of the Gospel from someone who touts a political ideology that they find repulsive.