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"Americans want everything, even what we will find in the future" - Zelenskyy

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The US side submitted a new proposal to Ukraine, which puts the country even more under the control of the United States and indefinitely appropriates the profits of its mineral wealth and other sectors of the economy. In the meantime, some of the world's media have also accessed the document. According to Bloomberg, one of the US's goals is to take over all of Ukraine's resources and block Europe's access to them and, as a result, prevent Kiev from joining the EU. The Telegraph described the draft agreement as „an expropriation document “ of Ukraine's resources.

The main point of the new agreement is the requirement for full United States access to all minerals in Ukraine. This applies not only to existing sites, but also to those that will be discovered or developed in the future. The document covers a wide range of raw materials – from oil and natural gas to coal to precious metals and minerals, which are key to modern technology. This step is seen as a strategic intention of the USA to gain control over important resources in the region, which could have geopolitical and economic consequences not only for Ukraine, but also for Europe and Russia.
 

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Ukraine's minerals are overblown. I hope the deal with Congo thru but Zelensky should not wait too long because they are losing land as we speak.
Ukraine lacks manpower. Russia lacks tanks and other modern equipment - Ukraine destroys it faster than Russia can produce it. For example, Russia has no modern tanks in the battles, anymore.

The tactics of Russia, currently, are unending human waves supported by artillery. Ukraine does not have enough of the artillery shells to balance it, yet (but the production is growing every day).

Currently, the Russian forces are basically stuck - they tried to cross the front line rivers several times, but without success and with huge losses. On the other hand, to cross the rivers would be very hard also for the Ukraine's side, to get the land back.
 
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Zelensky would be a fool to trust the United States. The US has broken their security guarantees before (in 1992 Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons in return for security guarantees from Russia and the US), there is no reason to trust them now. Signing away the wealth of Ukraine is not worth it. They would be better off finding more reliable allies who will not insult their intelligence or their dignity.
 
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Zelensky would be a fool to trust the United States. The US has broken their security guarantees before (in 1992 Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons in return for security guarantees from Russia and the US), there is no reason to trust them now. Signing away the wealth of Ukraine is not worth it. They would be better off finding more reliable allies who will not insult their intelligence or their dignity.
There are no security guarantees, anyway. It is more like "Europe will take care of it, but you will give everything you have to us". No logic in it, really.

Some propose it is a negotiation tactics - giving overblown, absurd requirements in the beginning. The problem is, though, that this is not a beginning anymore and that it is highly unethical tactics when the other party is under a pressure, in an emergency situation.
 
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The US side submitted a new proposal to Ukraine, which puts the country even more under the control of the United States and indefinitely appropriates the profits of its mineral wealth and other sectors of the economy. In the meantime, some of the world's media have also accessed the document. According to Bloomberg, one of the US's goals is to take over all of Ukraine's resources and block Europe's access to them and, as a result, prevent Kiev from joining the EU. The Telegraph described the draft agreement as „an expropriation document “ of Ukraine's resources.

The main point of the new agreement is the requirement for full United States access to all minerals in Ukraine. This applies not only to existing sites, but also to those that will be discovered or developed in the future. The document covers a wide range of raw materials – from oil and natural gas to coal to precious metals and minerals, which are key to modern technology. This step is seen as a strategic intention of the USA to gain control over important resources in the region, which could have geopolitical and economic consequences not only for Ukraine, but also for Europe and Russia.

Transactional rape of a countries resources in exchange for defending it. The optics here are horrendous for the USA. They treat Ukraine like a prostitute in gangland territory. We will be your pimp if you smile while take every last bit of your humanity from you.
 
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Transactional rape of a countries resources in exchange for defending it. The optics here are horrendous for the USA. They treat Ukraine like a prostitute in gangland territory. We will be your pimp if you smile while take every last bit of your humanity from you.
We’re the USA, the “good guys”, whatever we do is “the correct & right thing”.
 
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Transactional rape of a countries resources in exchange for defending it. The optics here are horrendous for the USA. They treat Ukraine like a prostitute in gangland territory. We will be your pimp if you smile while take every last bit of your humanity from you.
What we are doing to Ukraine now is honestly so shameful it’s almost worse than what Russia has been doing. At least with the Russians, the Ukrainians know who the enemy is.
 
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Zelensky has already come out and said that they will accept no deal that would stop them from joining the EU, so this is already dead. As it should be, the suggestion of this is just sick and shameful.
 
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You are referring to wrong part of your post that I quoted.
Edit: The grammar should have already told you what I referred to, because it sure wasn't what you wrote .
 
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I see, but the thread was about minerals.

My post is off topic. All I can say is I have spent too much time around good people from London. Proper English speakers might see the humor.
 
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My post is off topic. All I can say is I have spent too much time around good people from London. Proper English speakers might see the humor.
I didn't reply to your post.
 
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