Trump to use Executive Orders to end all those pesky lawsuits .

Goonie · Mar 22, 2025

Trump ramps up retribution campaign against legal community

President ordered attorney general to refer partisan lawsuits to White House and recommend sanctions against firms

www.theguardian.com

So try to hold him to account, and he will strip any law firm of their clearances ensuring it will be impossible for them to represent their clients.

Servus · Mar 22, 2025

Goonie said:
Trump ramps up retribution campaign against legal community

President ordered attorney general to refer partisan lawsuits to White House and recommend sanctions against firms

www.theguardian.com

So try to hold him to account, and he will strip any law firm of their clearances ensuring it will be impossible for them to represent their clients.

The directives were outlined in a sweeping memo in which Trump alleged that too many law firms were filing frivolous claims designed to cause delays.

In other words it deals with lawfare being used to obstruct.

.Mikha'el. · Mar 22, 2025

It feels like Trump is bent on governing by executive order instead of passing bills through Congress.

Richard T · Mar 22, 2025

.Mikha'el. said:
It feels like Trump is bent on governing by executive order instead of passing bills through Congress.

It feels like that because it is true. Executive orders are not even a power given in the Constitution. Some strict adherents to the Constitution do not think they should be used at all.

Nithavela · Mar 22, 2025

Not to distract from this latest powergrab by Dear Leader, but I think it was Obama who started the trend of ruling with executive orders when he couldn't get congress behind him. The main difference of course is that Trump is not even trying to work with congress, he's just ruling by decree and nobody appears to be able to stop him.

You have given your president so many emergency powers that he's become basically a dictator that is only fettered by his own sense of duty and decency.

This of course begs the question what kind of emergency you were expecting in the first place. Maybe you guys shouldn't have watched so many hollywood movies.

JSRG · Mar 22, 2025

Richard T said:
It feels like that because it is true. Executive orders are not even a power given in the Constitution. Some strict adherents to the Constitution do not think they should be used at all.

Every President (except for maybe William Harrison due to dying within a month) has issued executive orders. I don't know when they were first formally called executive orders, but they've been done since George Washington. Presidents have powers, and they can give orders based on those powers. That's all an executive order is.

MyOwnSockPuppet · Mar 22, 2025

Richard T said:
It feels like that because it is true. Executive orders are not even a power given in the Constitution. Some strict adherents to the Constitution do not think they should be used at all.

Yet all but one president has used them to one degree or other.

MyOwnSockPuppet · Mar 22, 2025

Nithavela said:
Not to distract from this latest powergrab by Dear Leader, but I think it was Obama who started the trend of ruling with executive orders when he couldn't get congress behind him. The main difference of course is that Trump is not even trying to work with congress, he's just ruling by decree and nobody appears to be able to stop him.

You have given your president so many emergency powers that he's become basically a dictator that is only fettered by his own sense of duty and decency.

This of course begs the question what kind of emergency you were expecting in the first place. Maybe you guys shouldn't have watched so many hollywood movies.

Ironically Shrub used more executive orders than Obama, and Clinton used more than either.

It's the rate at which he's firing them out that's frankly concerning - he's already signed more than Rutherford B Hayes did in his entire term. As someone who lives in a constitutional monarchy it looks to me like he's acting like he's in charge of an absolute one.

Nithavela · Mar 22, 2025

MyOwnSockPuppet said:
Ironically Shrub used more executive orders than Obama, and Clinton used more than either.

It's the rate at which he's firing them out that's frankly concerning - he's already signed more than Rutherford B Hayes did in his entire term. As someone who lives in a constitutional monarchy it looks to me like he's acting like he's in charge of an absolute one.

Isn't he?

He doesn't need the legislative and he can just run over the judicative. He IS the king of the USA.

MyOwnSockPuppet · Mar 22, 2025

Nithavela said:
Isn't he?

He doesn't need the legislative and he can just run over the judicative. He IS the king of the USA.

King Donald of House Trump, first of his name, King of the billionaires and the reasonably priced men and Lord of as many extra states as he can imagine...

Bradskii · Mar 22, 2025

Goonie said:
Trump ramps up retribution campaign against legal community

President ordered attorney general to refer partisan lawsuits to White House and recommend sanctions against firms

www.theguardian.com

So try to hold him to account, and he will strip any law firm of their clearances ensuring it will be impossible for them to represent their clients.

And he thinks that will lead to a decrease in court cases? The guy is showing signs of senility. This will massively increase the number of cases. The administration is going to run out of lawyers dealing with them all.

This is like a cross between a Ponzi scheme and Wack-A-Mole. It's going to crash and burn.

ThatRobGuy · Mar 22, 2025

.Mikha'el. said:
It feels like Trump is bent on governing by executive order instead of passing bills through Congress.

I'd describe it more as him trying to create an impediment to the status quo that dictates that that one solitary judge out of 900 can completely delay him implementing his agenda.

Given that our judicial system (with regards to federal matters) is extremely susceptible to "forum shopping" (due to the fact that a District court is located right there in DC, and has a huge Democratic majority) and anyone looking to challenge a Trump directive merely has to find a contrived way to challenge it in a "preferred district", it seems as if he's looking to "level the playing field".

He's going about the wrong way. He has majorities on his side in both houses of the legislature, so he can lean on the House and Senate that could "right the ship" through the proper channels. So not sure why he's giving the other side fodder to use against him.

If I were Trump, I would be pressuring congress to pass a bill suggesting that any legal challenges are assigned to federal district courts on a lottery/random-draw system, so that people can't simply cherry pick a particular court where they know they're going to win.

Part of me suspects that while Republicans see the pitfalls of the status quo, they like challenging things they don't like in "friendly courts" just as much as democrats do, and they don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

FireDragon76 · Mar 22, 2025

ozso said:
The directives were outlined in a sweeping memo in which Trump alleged that too many law firms were filing frivolous claims designed to cause delays.

In other words it deals with lawfare being used to obstruct.

That's not lawfair, that's due process. A fundamental right in common law for almost a millenium.

FireDragon76 · Mar 22, 2025

Nithavela said:
Not to distract from this latest powergrab by Dear Leader, but I think it was Obama who started the trend of ruling with executive orders when he couldn't get congress behind him.

Unitary Executive Theory was floated with some of the hacks in the Nixon administration, but it was really George W. Bush's administration that started actually trying to test the waters in a serious way. Trump has taken it to a whole new level.

Servus · Mar 22, 2025

FireDragon76 said:
That's not lawfair, that's due process. A fundamental right in common law for almost a millenium.

A frivolous lawsuit is a legal action lacking merit, often filed to harass, delay, or embarrass the opposing party rather than to resolve a legitimate legal issue.

Richard T · Mar 23, 2025

JSRG said:
Every President (except for maybe William Harrison due to dying within a month) has issued executive orders. I don't know when they were first formally called executive orders, but they've been done since George Washington. Presidents have powers, and they can give orders based on those powers. That's all an executive order is.

Yes, you are right but the number and scope of these orders have really gone up, to where some are definitely overreaching. Executive Orders | The American Presidency Project
The President is to enforce laws, not make laws. "Most executive orders purport to execute laws passed by Congress in fulfillment of the President’s Article II duty to “make sure the laws be faithfully executed.” In essence, an executive order is a presidential statement directing how administration officials and agencies are to effectuate a duly passed federal law. In some limited cases, executive orders are based exclusively on the President’s enumerated Article II powers, including issuing pardons and commutations, directing the military, and making recess appointments." What is an Executive Order and What Legal Weight Does it Carry? | ACS

JSRG · Mar 23, 2025

Richard T said:
Yes, you are right but the number and scope of these orders have really gone up, to where some are definitely overreaching. Executive Orders | The American Presidency Project
The President is to enforce laws, not make laws. "Most executive orders purport to execute laws passed by Congress in fulfillment of the President’s Article II duty to “make sure the laws be faithfully executed.” In essence, an executive order is a presidential statement directing how administration officials and agencies are to effectuate a duly passed federal law. In some limited cases, executive orders are based exclusively on the President’s enumerated Article II powers, including issuing pardons and commutations, directing the military, and making recess appointments." What is an Executive Order and What Legal Weight Does it Carry? | ACS

Oh, I agree that executive orders have become more and more consequential. But the statement was that some think presidents can't issue executive orders, when obviously they can. It's just that there are a lot more of them and they go farther than they previously did.

Richard T · Mar 23, 2025

Yes, that was an overstatement. The early executive orders were just letters or memos though. No formal numbers.

Hans Blaster · Mar 24, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
I'd describe it more as him trying to create an impediment to the status quo that dictates that that one solitary judge out of 900 can completely delay him implementing his agenda.

Or try this one on for size "delay him breaking the law". (But that's for a trial court to decide.)

ThatRobGuy said:
Given that our judicial system (with regards to federal matters) is extremely susceptible to "forum shopping" (due to the fact that a District court is located right there in DC, and has a huge Democratic majority) and anyone looking to challenge a Trump directive merely has to find a contrived way to challenge it in a "preferred district", it seems as if he's looking to "level the playing field".

The integrated political affiliation of the state's Senators and their ability to slow, block, or influence the picks for district judges in their state is limited and completely void for the District of Columbia which has no Senators nor is it a state.

ThatRobGuy said:
He's going about the wrong way. He has majorities on his side in both houses of the legislature, so he can lean on the House and Senate that could "right the ship" through the proper channels. So not sure why he's giving the other side fodder to use against him.

If I were Trump, I would be pressuring congress to pass a bill suggesting that any legal challenges are assigned to federal district courts on a lottery/random-draw system, so that people can't simply cherry pick a particular court where they know they're going to win.

Part of me suspects that while Republicans see the pitfalls of the status quo, they like challenging things they don't like in "friendly courts" just as much as democrats do, and they don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

SarahsKnight · Mar 25, 2025

Goonie said:
Trump ramps up retribution campaign against legal community

President ordered attorney general to refer partisan lawsuits to White House and recommend sanctions against firms

www.theguardian.com

So try to hold him to account, and he will strip any law firm of their clearances ensuring it will be impossible for them to represent their clients.

Gee what a shocker ....

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