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Grace is free, by tautology?

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Mike Winger said:
Of course grace is free. That's what makes grace.
Yes, in Christianity and theology, grace is by definition a free and undeserved gift from God, not something that can be earned or deserved.
If it is grace, it is free, like that's just kind of a tautology.
Loosely speaking, sure. But when I heard it, I experienced anterior cingulate cortex dissonance. Formally, a tautology in logic is a statement that is always true because its truth value holds under every possible interpretation or assignment of truth values to its components, e.g., "I am either in my room or not in my room".
Strictly speaking, Grace is free by definition, not by a logical tautology.
 
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