Is it possible to lose salvation?

JesusFollowerForever said:

Jesus had a lot to say about and this taught that the path to eternal life is narrow and that few find it. In Matthew 7:13-14, He said;

"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."​

This shows that salvation is not guaranteed for everyone, and only those who stay faithful and follow His teachings will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus also warned that some would hear the word and believe for a while, but eventually fall away. In the Parable of the Sower, He explained;

"But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles." (Matthew 13:20-21).​

This illustrates that some will start their walk with God but will not persevere when faced with trials or temptations.

In John 15:6, Jesus made it even clearer, saying;

"If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."​

Here, Jesus compares Himself to a vine and believers as branches. A branch must remain connected to the vine to stay alive and bear fruit. If a person disconnects from Christ through disobedience or unbelief, they wither spiritually and face eternal judgment.


The original apostles also confirmed this truth. Peter warned in 2 Peter 2:20-21;

"For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them."​

This shows that a person who was once saved and returns to sin is in a worse condition than before they knew the truth.

James also affirmed this truth when he said;

"Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."​

(James 5:19-20).​

This verse reveals that a believer can wander away from the truth and face spiritual death unless they repent and return to God.

The Bible does provide examples of those who lost their salvation. Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve apostles chosen by Jesus, yet he betrayed the Lord for thirty pieces of silver. Jesus Himself said about Judas;

"It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." (Matthew 26:24).​

This shows that Judas was once in the faith but fell away and was lost.​

Another example is Balaam, a prophet who once heard from God but later led Israel into sin for personal gain. Peter referred to him, saying,

"They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor." (2 Peter 2:15). King Saul is yet another example; he was chosen and anointed by God but later disobeyed and rebelled, and the Spirit of God departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14)​

Jesus' words make it clear that salvation is not a one-time event but requires endurance and faithfulness until the end. As He said in Matthew 24:13, "But he who endures to the end shall be saved." Therefore, those who abide in Christ, obey His commandments, and remain faithful will receive eternal life. However, those who turn away from Him and return to sin risk losing their salvation and facing eternal separation from God.

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JesusFollowerForever said:

were you replying to the op or someone else?

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Neogaia777 said:

Do you want the truth, or just the atypical contradictory answers/replies that you already know, and are already expecting, and that you already know you will normally get?

Each person's individual judgment is going to be different, since God made each one of us different. What might be held against one person, might not be held against another, and vice-versa, etc. We are not the judges of each individual person, so I just tell everyone that any kind of sin (that the Bible says are sins) can be a possible risk, etc. And this could be a risk to salvation, or otherwise to potential rewards or gains or losses in Heaven, etc, but none of us can know or say for sure, since it is only God who knows exactly how He made each individual person. Technically, if you can lose out on your salvation, or lose your salvation, then you never truly had it to begin with, but that would require a bit more explaining, and depending on your current level of knowledge, or knowing, or understanding right now, you will either understand that explanation, or you will not, etc. So I think this is enough for now.

God Bless.

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Ivan Hlavanda said:

To answer your question one must look at the cross. What happened there?

Jesus' sacrifice was perfect. He paid the penalty for every sin of every believer. When Christ drank the cup of God’s wrath he drank it to the dregs. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus and that means on the final day and every day until then. God is never judging you for your sin if you are in Christ.

God cannot judge His people in any way because his people have already been judged in Jesus.

So have can a Christian lose salvation if Christ satisfied God's wrath? How can a Christian lose salvation when his sins were paid for? There is no longer sin as a Christian passed from judgement to life.

People who say salvation can be lost are ultimately saying to the Father that sending His Son was not enough, but you a sinner can add something to it. You are saying to the Son of God that Him giving His life on the cross was not enough.

Some verses that show salvation cannot be lost:

John 6 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
He will lose none, not some.

John 10 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

No one can snatch them from His hands. Those who say salvation can be lost, are calling Christ liar.

Romans 8 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Nothing can separate a Christian from the love of God.

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JesusFollowerForever said:

read post no 8 your answers are in there.

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d taylor said:

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If a person has believed in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life (salvation). Then no, that person can not lose their Eternal Life (salvation).

So if you do not want to spend eternity with God. Do not believe in Jesus, because if you do and something happens and you end up getting mad or hating God. There will be nothing you can do, you will end up spending eternity with God on the new earth.

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JesusFollowerForever said:

Jesus had a lot to say about and this taught that the path to eternal life is narrow and that few find it. In Matthew 7:13-14, He said;

"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."​

This shows that salvation is not guaranteed for everyone, and only those who stay faithful and follow His teachings will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus also warned that some would hear the word and believe for a while, but eventually fall away. In the Parable of the Sower, He explained;

"But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles." (Matthew 13:20-21).​

This illustrates that some will start their walk with God but will not persevere when faced with trials or temptations.

In John 15:6, Jesus made it even clearer, saying;

"If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."​

Here, Jesus compares Himself to a vine and believers as branches. A branch must remain connected to the vine to stay alive and bear fruit. If a person disconnects from Christ through disobedience or unbelief, they wither spiritually and face eternal judgment.


The original apostles also confirmed this truth. Peter warned in 2 Peter 2:20-21;

"For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them."​

This shows that a person who was once saved and returns to sin is in a worse condition than before they knew the truth.

James also affirmed this truth when he said;

"Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."​

(James 5:19-20).​

This verse reveals that a believer can wander away from the truth and face spiritual death unless they repent and return to God.

The Bible does provide examples of those who lost their salvation. Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve apostles chosen by Jesus, yet he betrayed the Lord for thirty pieces of silver. Jesus Himself said about Judas;

"It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." (Matthew 26:24).​

This shows that Judas was once in the faith but fell away and was lost.​

Another example is Balaam, a prophet who once heard from God but later led Israel into sin for personal gain. Peter referred to him, saying,

"They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor." (2 Peter 2:15). King Saul is yet another example; he was chosen and anointed by God but later disobeyed and rebelled, and the Spirit of God departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14)​

Jesus' words make it clear that salvation is not a one-time event but requires endurance and faithfulness until the end. As He said in Matthew 24:13, "But he who endures to the end shall be saved." Therefore, those who abide in Christ, obey His commandments, and remain faithful will receive eternal life. However, those who turn away from Him and return to sin risk losing their salvation and facing eternal separation from God.

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Wansvic said:

Allow the word of God to wash away the error of once saved always saved. It is a deception of the enemy.

The following scripture pertains specifically to those in the churches and reveals it is possible to have one's name blotted out of the book of life.

"Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." Rev. 3:3-6

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JesusFollowerForever said:

If I follow what you say, Jesus also paid for the sin of Herod, Hitler, judas and why not satan too, are these saved also?

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Neogaia777 said:

Do you want the truth, or just the atypical contradictory answers/replies that you already know, and are already expecting, and that you already know you will normally get?

Each person's individual judgment is going to be different, since God made each one of us different. What might be held against one person, might not be held against another, and vice-versa, etc. We are not the judges of each individual person, so I just tell everyone that any kind of sin (that the Bible says are sins) can be a possible risk, etc. And this could be a risk to salvation, or otherwise to potential rewards or gains or losses in Heaven, etc, but none of us can know or say for sure, since it is only God who knows exactly how He made each individual person. Technically, if you can lose out on your salvation, or lose your salvation, then you never truly had it to begin with, but that would require a bit more explaining, and depending on your current level of knowledge, or knowing, or understanding right now, you will either understand that explanation, or you will not, etc. So I think this is enough for now.

God Bless.

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d taylor said:

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The verse you post from Revelation shows that it is not possible, as Jesus states He will not blot out a name written in the book of life.

Show me the verse that states those believers that do not oversometh, their name will be blotted out.

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Ivan Hlavanda said:

To answer your question one must look at the cross. What happened there?

Jesus' sacrifice was perfect. He paid the penalty for every sin of every believer. When Christ drank the cup of God’s wrath he drank it to the dregs. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus and that means on the final day and every day until then. God is never judging you for your sin if you are in Christ.

God cannot judge His people in any way because his people have already been judged in Jesus.

So have can a Christian lose salvation if Christ satisfied God's wrath? How can a Christian lose salvation when his sins were paid for? There is no longer sin as a Christian passed from judgement to life.

People who say salvation can be lost are ultimately saying to the Father that sending His Son was not enough, but you a sinner can add something to it. You are saying to the Son of God that Him giving His life on the cross was not enough.

Some verses that show salvation cannot be lost:

John 6 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
He will lose none, not some.

John 10 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

No one can snatch them from His hands. Those who say salvation can be lost, are calling Christ liar.

Romans 8 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Nothing can separate a Christian from the love of God.

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Wansvic said:

Jesus did pay the penalty for all mankind

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Wansvic said:

The verse states those in the churches that hold fast and repent ARE NOT be in jeopardy of being blotted out of the book of life. The reverse is true for those who don't hold fast and repent; they will have their names blotted out.

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