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Trump says Zelensky not ready for peace
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Looking at the alternative, many people felt like they had no other choice.
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So having American assets in Ukraine wouldn't have provided security for Ukraine?
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Not necessarily. And if it would have, why wasn’t that clearly communicated as being a dissuasive measure included in the deal?
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The alternative was grown-ups. One might disagree with some policies, but it would have been a vote for sanity.
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...Those are thing's that would break the deal. People need to understand that no deal on a cease-fire can ever happen unless Russia also agrees, even if they are an evil dictatorship.
The only orher alternative is more war.
...Maybe that's what Zelenskyy ultimately wants - a fight to the death.
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Errr.....I'm not going to comment on Harris and her leadership skills. It's best to keep my mouth shut, out of charity.
#2. And no, I don't agree with this comment.
Not saying I like Trump that much to begin with.
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Nope!
She lost because she was a terrible candidate. All she did was cackle and come up with word salads.
Her gender had nothing to do with it!
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It was.. You can't say it publicly though, because Putin is unstable. Can't have him backing out.
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How many more billions would they have spent on this war? Or would they have eventually abandoned Ukraine?
...What would the "grown-ups" do?
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I’m perfectly calm. I’m not the one of the two goofballs who just threw a screaming fit in front of a respected world leader.
You need to be less oversensitive and easy to offend.
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Did you even see Zelenskyy's body language, pulling his shoulder away from Trump when he touched him? Talking over everybody, not letting people speak?
...We know the left hates Trump no matter what. So, how can anyone take you seriously with more one-sided, anti-Trump, imbalanced comments?
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Putin started an terrorist attack on Ukraine. Why is it expected for Ukraine to make peace?
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Yes, I saw that he didn’t want to be touched and yet Trump persisted (and we all know how Trump struggles with consent and not touching people they don’t consent), and I saw Vance and Trump talk over him and not let him speak.
Glad he stood up to them, but he was never one to be bullied anyway, so I’m not surprised.
LoL, this coming from the very paradigm of impartiality and balance himself. Take your big iron “e” out of here with that, lol.
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Yeah, well peoples lives are depending on Zelenskyy. Backing out of this peace deal was the worst decision he could have ever made.
...And for what?
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LOL, I guess more Ukrainians die then. Glad he took that stand.
...Ukraine will soon become Russia because of decisions like this.
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