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Trump says Zelensky not ready for peace

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The way Trump and Vance behaved was pretty disgusting to watch.

How on earth did 70+ million people vote for these guys?
Looking at the alternative, many people felt like they had no other choice.
 
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So having American assets in Ukraine wouldn't have provided security for Ukraine?

Not necessarily. And if it would have, why wasn’t that clearly communicated as being a dissuasive measure included in the deal?
 
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Looking at the alternative, many people felt like they had no other choice.
The alternative was grown-ups. One might disagree with some policies, but it would have been a vote for sanity.
 
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A path to NATO and security guarantees would probably put them both on the same page.
While I approve of most of what Trump has been attempting to accomplish I completely despise his fawning over Putin and Russia. I predict that will not end well for him.
...Those are thing's that would break the deal. People need to understand that no deal on a cease-fire can ever happen unless Russia also agrees, even if they are an evil dictatorship.

The only orher alternative is more war.

...Maybe that's what Zelenskyy ultimately wants - a fight to the death.
 
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The alternative was grown-ups. One might disagree with some policies, but it would have been a vote for sanity.
Errr.....I'm not going to comment on Harris and her leadership skills. It's best to keep my mouth shut, out of charity.

#2. And no, I don't agree with this comment.

Not saying I like Trump that much to begin with.
 
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USA is not yet ready to vote for a woman president.
Nope!

She lost because she was a terrible candidate. All she did was cackle and come up with word salads.

Her gender had nothing to do with it!
 
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Not necessarily. And if it would have, why wasn’t that clearly communicated as being a dissuasive measure included in the deal?
It was.. You can't say it publicly though, because Putin is unstable. Can't have him backing out.
 
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The alternative was grown-ups. One might disagree with some policies, but it would have been a vote for sanity.
How many more billions would they have spent on this war? Or would they have eventually abandoned Ukraine?

...What would the "grown-ups" do?
 
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You need to calm down.
I’m perfectly calm. I’m not the one of the two goofballs who just threw a screaming fit in front of a respected world leader.

You need to be less oversensitive and easy to offend.
 
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I’m perfectly calm. I’m not the one of the two goofballs who just threw a screaming fit in front of a respected world leader.

You need to be less oversensitive and easy to offend.
Did you even see Zelenskyy's body language, pulling his shoulder away from Trump when he touched him? Talking over everybody, not letting people speak?

...We know the left hates Trump no matter what. So, how can anyone take you seriously with more one-sided, anti-Trump, imbalanced comments?
 
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Did you even see Zelenskyy's body language, pulling his shoulder away from Trump when he touched him? Talking over everybody, not letting people speak?

...We know the left hates Trump no matter what. So, how can anyone take you seriously with more one-sided, anti-Trump, imbalanced comments?
Trump was not respectful towards Zelenski. I don’t blame him for getting defensive towards Trump. Trump also has a tendency to not respect personal space.
 
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Nope!

She lost because she was a terrible candidate. All she did was cackle and come up with word salads.

Her gender had nothing to do with it!
LOL, you guys are pretending that you don't vote for her because you don't like her laugh.
That's all you got.
 
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Did you even see Zelenskyy's body language, pulling his shoulder away from Trump when he touched him? Talking over everybody, not letting people speak?
Yes, I saw that he didn’t want to be touched and yet Trump persisted (and we all know how Trump struggles with consent and not touching people they don’t consent), and I saw Vance and Trump talk over him and not let him speak.

Glad he stood up to them, but he was never one to be bullied anyway, so I’m not surprised.
...We know the left hates Trump no matter what. So, how can anyone take you seriously with more one-sided, anti-Trump, imbalanced comments?
LoL, this coming from the very paradigm of impartiality and balance himself. Take your big iron “e” out of here with that, lol.
 
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Trump was not respectful towards Zelenski. I don’t blame him for getting defensive towards Trump. Trump also has a tendency to not respect personal space.
Yeah, well peoples lives are depending on Zelenskyy. Backing out of this peace deal was the worst decision he could have ever made.

...And for what?
 
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Yes, I saw that he didn’t want to be touched and yet Trump persisted (and we all know how Trump struggles with consent and not touching people they don’t consent), and I saw Vance and Trump talk over him and not let him speak.

Glad he stood up to them, but he was never one to be bullied anyway, so I’m not surprised.

LoL, this coming from the very paradigm of impartiality and balance himself. Take your big iron “e” out of here with that, lol.
LOL, I guess more Ukrainians die then. Glad he took that stand. :rolleyes:

...Ukraine will soon become Russia because of decisions like this.
 
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