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Trump 2.0 and the Return of Court Politics
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What is abnormal is government workers refusing to return to the office, NSA using secret government chat rooms for sexual discussions, a bugged Oval office (including the Resolute Desk), a CIA that hides money through Medicaid and Social Security, USAID that topples government apart from the State Department, on and on and on....Been catching up on some of my back episodes of the Ezra Klein Show and came across this interesting discussion that puts Trump in context of other world leaders and "personalist" political parties centered around those leaders rather than a set of ideas.
Opinion | Trump 2.0 and the Return of ‘Court Politics’
The political scientist Erica Frantz describes the regime change the second Trump administration represents.www.nytimes.com
America is undergoing a regime change. We think of that term as describing a change in who is in power, but I mean it in the sense of the political system itself — the way that power works.We’re used to our politics revolving around what the political scientists call “programmatic political parties” — coalitions bound together by shared interests and goals. They feature agreements that supersede the desires of any particular leader. They have large collections of elites and staffers and functionaries who know how to work together across administrations and periods.There is this other kind of political party: a personalist party — a party subordinate to a person. It works less like the political parties we’re used to and more like royal courts. These parties have become more common worldwide in recent decades. And when they emerge in democracies, they make backsliding into some form of hybrid authoritarianism a lot more likely.
It isn't the president that is out of control.
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Don't you always hear politicians say it's a mandate from the people after they get elected?
50% of Americans didn't care who was elected so even with this we can say mandate from Americans.
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I've heard it from Mr. Trump after both elections, neither of which did he win the majority of the popular vote. Does that make a mandate?
More people voted for someone else for president than voted for him. What kind of mandate is that?
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I can't believe the New York Times is being so naive, or coy...
The politics is fascist, obviously, since one of the core ideas of fascism was the notion of der fuehrer or il duce who embodies the nation's virtues of the will to power. There was even a word for this in German that was used, fuehrerprinzip, or leader-principle.
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An offshoot of the Führerprinzip is that the leader also bears all the responsibility or guilt, so if, say, a nation with a leader commits any kind of crime, only the leader himself is fully responsible for that crime, with everyone else 'just following orders' and thus not responsible.
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That's part of the attraction. The Fuehrerprinzip absolves people of personal responsibility over their lives. For people in psychic pain, confused by a changing world or economic circumstances, that is the allure of fascism. The Fuehrer validates you anger and frustration, givig it voice, and telling you "it's not your fault, it's those other people "poisoning the blood of the nation"
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49.8% per CNN which is better than Kamala’s 48.3%. https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president
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"Royalty was like dandelions. No matter how many heads you chopped off, the roots were still there underground, waiting to spring up again.
It seemed to be a chronic disease. It was as if even the most intelligent person had this little blank spot in their heads where someone had written: "Kings. What a good idea." Whoever had created humanity had left in a major design flaw. It was its tendency to bend at the knees."
-Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay
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Terry Pratchett? Ha, that guy taught flat earth theory (bad joke)
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Atheist, critical thinker, septic, humourist, angry person and cynic. Simultaneous one of the best and worst people I ever met. A real exercise in the duality of man. We're lessened by his passing but thankful for the impressions he left in his passage.
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Of course now, for Trump, he knows he can't be prosecuted for any crimes he commits (so long as he couches them as "official acts"), so that part isn't a problem. For him.
-- A2SG, not that Donald has ever had a problem finding scapegoats....
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