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Well I suspect that a trip around the concept of womb rights of native peoples might be agood idea for trump to study up on..
so ancient and native culture there was two ways to become basicly citizens of a tribe. The most important was by womb rights. So instead of being a citizen by being born on a a peice of dirt. You could only become part if your mother was part of the clan.

Or you could be adopted by the vote of the clan mothers. So a Chinese male would need to prove his value to a clan system or be lead away. He would also need to prove and be will8ng and understand how when and where to pay tribute to the mingo ( tributary powers or a queen mothers, clan mothers and her mingo/ king son )And a Mexican mother would need to appeal to the clans to be adopted into the clan or else her and her babies would still be viewed as Mexica, so that was a kind of legal basis for showing respect to the original people in location. Anything else is an invasion and act of war. A violation of the powers of that society. Now if you listen to current educated Indians today they don't seem to know that ancestors had to pay tributes and or holy tithes/ tenth to the clans mothers. And anything legally speaking is viewed as racism.
I mean the queens tried and the treaties tried to make the Europeans pay the tributes but they started their own system and never once paid their tributes to the powers that be there maybe they never understood it because the word minchah/ mingo were used instead of the word Tax. Those little bit of beads and cloth and maybe liquor was to be paid yearly to remain on the land. It was because they used up recourses that the tributes could be used to secure other resourses from other tribes , prospering the whole land and theclans. Their trading systems going all the way up to New York and down into. the carbean and outto the plains. SO IMMIGRANTS NEED TO BE APPEALING TO CITIES OR STATES OR TRIBES OR CLANS. AND LET THE CITIES AND STATES OR TRIBES OR CLANS PAY FOR/ CARRY THEM. OR MAKE THEM CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF THOSE PLACES.
 
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Would you consider ending birthright citizenship as a solution to this going forward?

In the United States the US Constitution guarantees that all who are born on US soil, or born to US citizens are, themselves, US citizens. That's US Law.

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In the United States the US Constitution guarantees that all who are born on US soil, or born to US citizens are, themselves, US citizens. That's US Law.

-CryptoLutheran
That’s what I understand?? Correct??
 
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In the United States the US Constitution guarantees that all who are born on US soil, or born to US citizens are, themselves, US citizens. That's US Law.

-CryptoLutheran
So it would require a constitutional amendment to change that. Not some president's executive order.
 
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In the United States the US Constitution guarantees that all who are born on US soil, or born to US citizens are, themselves, US citizens. That's US Law.
Unless we abandon fidelity to the Constitution and rule of law, which doesn't seem very far out of the question at this point.
 
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So it would require a constitutional amendment to change that. Not some president's executive order.

Correct.

I would also add that it's a terrible idea. The 14th Amendment is there because after the Civil War and the Emancipation of slaves it was necessary to establish that all freed slaves were citizens.

Repealing the 14th Amendment would undermine the protection of all US citizens.

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That’s what I understand?? Correct??

Yes. The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments are known as the Reconstruction Amendments. The 13th abolished slavery, the 14th ensures that all who are born here are citizens and negates the Dread Scott case which declared that slaves and former slaves weren't citizens, ensuring that all the freed slaves were citizens of the US; and the 15th ensures that there can't be any discrimination on the basis of race for voting, to ensure that all citizens (only men at the time), regardless of the color of their skin, can partake in the democratic process of America's representative democracy.

Repealing the 14th Amendment would be an attack on the American republic itself. The fight for equal rights and protections, to eliminate racial discrimination in the public sector, has been a long, steep upward battle. One that is still being fought, in order that the US can achieve its vision of a republic in which "all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights".

What is at stake here is democracy, the republic, and human dignity itself.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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