In the aftermath of the elections, my plea is that for us to be kind to our opposers.

Paidiske said:

I've seen it just on CF. Schadenfreude is on clear display. And I'm not even in America to have a voting allegiance.

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I called my dad to see how he and my sister were taking it. They vote blue, in a state turned red, and my sister volunteered her time and effort for a campaign that lost.

Regardless, one need only turn on YT to see the new histrionics on display...every day. They clearly aren't in a place to consider advice....maybe though, in time.

FireDragon76 said:

That's not happiness and joy; it's indeed schadenfreude. Pleasure out of seeing other people suffer. It's the pleasure of the small and cruel.

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I don't know if someone's suffering is genuine online....especially when they seek to make such a display of it. It's entirely possible they simply want attention/views.

It's a bit over the top.

Ana the Ist said:

They clearly aren't in a place to consider advice....maybe though, in time.

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What advice do you have?

Chesterton said:

Seriously though, I'm sure the vast majority of people who oppose Trump don't act weird. But this thread came around to talking about laughing at people because their side lost. That's not the case. The people being laughed at are just the people who do laughable things.

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This is fair. I don't know the thread but I can only think of a few that seemed genuine and upset. Most choose a race or sex to blame....and after awhile, it's clear to anyone listening why they lost.

FireDragon76 said:

I have a right to be angry, since Trump's fascism is a threat to my freedoms and flourishing, and the freedom and flourishing of my loved ones and community.

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Well that's why you're not seeing empathy....the other side doesn't believe that. A defining feature of fascism is military expansion and war...and Trump has campaigned on neither, twice.

Akita Suggagaki said:

What advice do you have?

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You can find probably a dozen valid points online for why Harris’s campaign lost that don't involve talking down to or blaming the skin color or sex of half the US voters....

Generally though, I think the Dems misread a serious question regarding why Barack Obama won a cross demographic coalition and Hillary didn't.

He didn't have the baggage she did record wise. People didn't vote for him because he was black but rather because he was a good candidate. Both he and McCain were. Obama ran on policies...which benefitted everyone without discrimination. He didn't really lean into his black identity till late 2nd term. It seems that Hillary's campaign tried to run on racial resentment and division based on protected characteristics. This....isn't a great strategy....as racism historically has a bad track record. Also demonizing men doesn't help....and dismissing their concerns was something Harris tried to fix far too late.

I give her credit for what she did under so much pressure and without warning. I think if she could have been a bit less pandering and more authentic it would have helped.

You're free to disagree of course.

Dp

FireDragon76 said:

Stochastic terrorism

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Anyone unfamiliar with "stochastic terrorism" can consider the 2nd attempted assassination of Trump as a good example.

The media repeatedly made overtures of Trump destroying democracy, eventually a lone goofball believes it enough to imagine stopping this by ending Trump's life is a good idea, and that in a nutshell.....is stochastic terrorism.

I tend to think it's more important to retain freedom of speech and the media or public isn't responsible for the attempted violence.

FireDragon76 said:

and violence increasing or even being normalized, particularly against minorities.

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Ok.

FireDragon76 said:

The impacts of climate change being ignored.

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Pretty much being ignored now, Harris was for fracking if I recall....but fair point.

FireDragon76 said:

High tariffs on goods like electronics. Those are some that come immediately to mind.

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I'm not concerned about this. Any high tariff can be avoided by bringing production here domestically.

Solum Aeternum said:

Even if you vehemently disagree with them, think their minds were full of lies wither by their own doing or lies fed to them by outside sources, whether you think they wouldn't do the same back to you if Trump ha loss, lets all be kind. God called us to be different, not to partake in the same nonsense came calling war. Lets be an example.
And when I say be kind, I don't mean try to meet anyone's beliefs half way or even sympathize. But don't be boastful or arrogant, this isn't your favorite sports team. Don't go on social medias and go "haha you losers, suffer". People may say I am naïve or ignorant but I'm of the belief that it would be better if people will be nice to each other, and it starts with us. Stuff like this can divide us but we can still be friends regardless right?
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" - Matthew 5:34-35

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I agree. But I hope you do not mind if I duck and weave as I love them. I can take a punch if I have to. But I would rather not.