Voting by Mail?

KCfromNC · Jan 16, 2022

Albion said:
What has been proposed by Republican state legislators (and immediately shot down by the other party) is for the state governments to furnish ID's free of charge to every voter who cannot afford one and doesn't have a photo ID of any sort at present. How the opponents can be incensed by that approach, as the opponents indeed are, is hard to appreciate.

That's not universal, though. In my state the GOP proposal was to require a specific list of types of voter ID after researching which types of ID were most difficult for minority voters to obtain.

But in any case, I'll reiterate my proposal to allow vaccination cards to be the acceptable form of voter ID. They're available to everyone for free, after all. No one could possibly be "be incensed by that approach" for any reason.

Ponderous Curmudgeon · Jan 16, 2022

Albion said:
It's good to know that such reasonable measures are in place in some state(s).

But then, what is the reason for people to support policies in other states which allow these signatures not to be checked...or of making the policy be to accept ballots that come with no signature at all??

It would seem reasonable to want to strengthen such procedures in order to have voting integrity, but states with Democratic-controlled legislatures or a Democratic governor have refused all such reforms when they've been proposed.

What evidence do you have that signatures aren't checked on mail in ballots anywhere? Or are you just making this up like most of your assertions.

Albion · Jan 16, 2022

Ponderous Curmudgeon said:
What evidence do you have that signatures aren't checked on mail in ballots anywhere?

I didn't say "not anywhere." It was a problem in some states during the 2020 election, however.

wing2000 · Jan 16, 2022

Hank77 said:
Colorado began mail-in voting for everyone in 2013. We have had a Democratic governor since 2008. The HoR has been controlled by the Democrats since the 2012 election. The Senate - D in 2012, R in 14 and 16, D in 19 and 20.

Colorado is 1/3 R, 1/3 D, and 1/3 Unaffiliated voters that can and do vote either way and often by the individual candidate's platform so both R and D are fighting for those votes.
For this reason, I think we have more moderate Dems. than are found in many states.

It's only been in the last election that I remember seeing radical candidates.
In 2016 Republicans in this state didn't vote for Trump in the primary, they chose Cruz.

....and Arizona has a similar vote by mail in place for over two decades....implemented and managed by Republicans - Republicans who believe voter participation is a good thing (....at least our county level officials still believe that).

....yet yesterday, here is the former POTUS - still asserting the BIG LIE over 1 year later.

"I love Arizona. We had a tremendous victory in Arizona that was taken away. ... We had a rigged election. ... (The media) refuse to talk about it. The Big Lie is a lot of bull----. That's what it is.

Trump returns to Arizona with talk of possible endorsements

Albion · Jan 16, 2022

wing2000 said:
....yet yesterday, here is the former POTUS - still asserting the BIG LIE over 1 year later.

Don't be so quick to protest. After all, Hillary is still promoting the BIG LIE with regard to her own defeat in 2016, and that loss was not a result of the irregularities and illegalities that characterized the 2020 election.

wing2000 · Jan 16, 2022

Albion said:
Don't be so quick to protest. After all, Hillary is still promoting the BIG LIE with regard to her own defeat in 2016, and that loss was not a result of the irregularities and illegalities that characterized the 2020 election.

Do you agree with former President Trump? Was his victory in Arizona "taken away"?

JustOneWay · Jan 16, 2022

Trump takes his denial on tour, but what about Hillary?

Albion · Jan 16, 2022

wing2000 said:
Do you agree with former President Trump? Was his victory in Arizona "taken away"?

I don't know enough about it to say (which is what other people who are pounding the computer keyboard and complaining about Trump's comments concerning the electoral mess in AZ should be saying themselves).

However, the goings-on there that I have read something about do make it seem clear that there were many irregularities that could easily have affected the outcome.

Albion · Jan 16, 2022

JustOneWay said:
Trump takes his denial on tour, but what about Hillary?

She's been making her complaints to the press directly. Which of those is more brazen--speaking to one's supporters or making allegations to the media in anticipation of it being widely circulated by them??

wing2000 · Jan 16, 2022

Albion said:
I don't know enough about it to say (which is what other people who are pounding the computer keyboard and complaining about Trump's comments concerning the electoral mess in AZ should be saying themselves).

However, the goings-on there that I have read something about do make it seem clear that there were many irregularities that could easily have affected the outcome.

You don't know enough to say? ...and continue to cast shade on our state's election.

You could have just answered "yes"

KCfromNC · Jan 16, 2022

JustOneWay said:
Trump takes his denial on tour, but what about Hillary?

Thanks, Obama.

FredVB · Nov 12, 2024

I do not think the voting would make any difference, anyway. Everyone has an idea of some issues, and they disregard the rest. Now we have some issue being dealt with from having the winner coming into office while other issues remain disregarded. I had no expectation it could be better.

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