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Members of "The View" say Harris would have won if the government could control social media

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Echoing a statement by Harris a few weeks ago, when she said the government cannot allow Americans to express themselves freely and without regulation on the Internet, "The View" says she would have won if such regulation were implemented.

 

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I think that some regulations for social media aren't a bad thing. But of course it's hard to stop stuff like criminal activity, hate speech and disinformation by malicious actors without also censoring legitimate opposing opinions.
 
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I think that some regulations for social media aren't a bad thing. But of course it's hard to stop stuff like criminal activity, hate speech and disinformation by malicious actors without also censoring legitimate opposing opinions.
I do not want any government, Republican or Democrat, controlling or regulating social media, online forums, newspapers, magazines,. whatever

criminal activity, direct threats, etc. are not protected speech and there are laws in place already for those things.

A large percentage of Democrats think that hate speech isn't protected by the First Amendment, which is obviously false. I am pretty sure the woman on "The View" who are not particularly smart or well-read, hold this idea.

other concerns with speech in this country according to this site and others (Speech)

46% of Americans don't realize hate speech is protected
35% believe comedy should be regulated or outlawed
37% think people should get cancelled for saying controversial things
36% of Americans think preventing hate speech and speech against the government is more important than protecting speech

so we have 40-50% of Americans who are basically opposed to the First Amendment

and that is a failure of our schools and politicians. Tim Walz also made anti-free-speech comments and false claims in regards to all this recently
 
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I do not want any government, Republican or Democrat, controlling or regulating social media, online forums, newspapers, magazines,. whatever

criminal activity, direct threats, etc. are not protected speech and there are laws in place already for those things.

A large percentage of Democrats think that hate speech isn't protected by the First Amendment, which is obviously false. I am pretty sure the woman on "The View" who are not particularly smart or well-read, hold this idea.

other concerns with speech in this country according to this site and others (Speech)

46% of Americans don't realize hate speech is protected
35% believe comedy should be regulated or outlawed
37% think people should get cancelled for saying controversial things
36% of Americans think preventing hate speech and speech against the government is more important than protecting speech

so we have 40-50% of Americans who are basically opposed to the First Amendment

and that is a failure of our schools and politicians. Tim Walz also made anti-free-speech comments and false claims in regards to all this recently
Yet I keep seeing conservatives complain when these companies institute their own policies on misinformation and claiming the government should step in to ensure they are not discriminated against.
 
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Yet I keep seeing conservatives complain when these companies institute their own policies on misinformation and claiming the government should step in to ensure they are not discriminated against.
I'm not saying you are wrong. I do wonder though if you see any difference in asking the government to ensure the right of free speech or to ask the government to limit free speech.
 
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Yet I keep seeing conservatives complain when these companies institute their own policies on misinformation and claiming the government should step in to ensure they are not discriminated against.
From my recollection, many conservatives were not simply complaining that social media companies were engaging in unfair censorship of conservative views, but were complaining that these censorship efforts were being spearheaded by the government

If FB or Instagram takes down your posts because they didn't like what you were saying is one thing

having the Biden administration tell these companies to take down your posts is an entirely different matter

I am not saying private companies cannot do as they see fit with the content on their platforms. they can

but the political left went nuts when Elon Musk started doing exactly that with X, which is hypocrisy
 
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Echoing a statement by Harris a few weeks ago, when she said the government cannot allow Americans to express themselves freely and without regulation on the Internet, "The View" says she would have won if such regulation were implemented.

Idiots.
Then again, it may increase their numbers if people were desperate enough to listen to their drivel.
 
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From my recollection, many conservatives were not simply complaining that social media companies were engaging in unfair censorship of conservative views, but were complaining that these censorship efforts were being spearheaded by the government
I saw a lot of both. I argued with conservative people here that companies are and should be allowed to set their own speech standards on their own platforms. So much pushback against that.

That said, on the flip side, the govt should never have pressured these platforms.
 
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I'm not saying you are wrong. I do wonder though if you see any difference in asking the government to ensure the right of free speech or to ask the government to limit free speech.
I do, of course, see the distinction. The issue I see is the idea of government promoting free expression at the cost of free association.
 
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From my recollection, many conservatives were not simply complaining that social media companies were engaging in unfair censorship of conservative views, but were complaining that these censorship efforts were being spearheaded by the government

If FB or Instagram takes down your posts because they didn't like what you were saying is one thing

having the Biden administration tell these companies to take down your posts is an entirely different matter

I am not saying private companies cannot do as they see fit with the content on their platforms. they can

but the political left went nuts when Elon Musk started doing exactly that with X, which is hypocrisy
My recollection is different. I remember conservatives complaining when private companies stopped the spread of all known misinformation that could be harmful to people. All without any government intervention.

As far as the left "going nuts" they were pointing out the hypocrisy of Elon claiming to be a champion of free speech and then silencing any one he did not like.
 
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We all realize that this forum is social media, right?
If views which do not align with the owner and staff were to be suppressed what would we have here? A group of people patting each other on the back and encouraging the same.
We are so wise.
We know what's right.
We should be the only voice heard here. We speak for God.

On other treads a common accusation is foolishly hurled.
"Trump is a fascist."
One of the initial moves of a fascist regime is suppression of speech.
That sort of talk comes from the left.
And, the view? Given where rheir heads are stuck, I doubt they have much of one.

Now some of you may interpret this as offensive. Feel free.
It will be after all your bias speaking.
 
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My recollection is different. I remember conservatives complaining when private companies stopped the spread of all known misinformation that could be harmful to people. All without any government intervention.

As far as the left "going nuts" they were pointing out the hypocrisy of Elon claiming to be a champion of free speech and then silencing any one he did not like.
you recollect incorrectly



 
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you recollect incorrectly



Yeah, I don't think so. Conservatives were not whinging about Amazon.
 
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We all realize that this forum is social media, right?
If views which do not align with the owner and staff were to be suppressed what would we have here? A group of people patting each other on the back and encouraging the same.
We are so wise.
We know what's right.
We should be the only voice heard here. We speak for God.

On other treads a common accusation is foolishly hurled.
"Trump is a fascist."
One of the initial moves of a fascist regime is suppression of speech.
That sort of talk comes from the left.
And, the view? Given where rheir heads are stuck, I doubt they have much of one.

Now some of you may interpret this as offensive. Feel free.
It will be after all your bias speaking.
You do realise that there are views that are not allowed to be expressed on CF, right?
 
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Echoing a statement by Harris a few weeks ago, when she said the government cannot allow Americans to express themselves freely and without regulation on the Internet, "The View" says she would have won if such regulation were implemented.


Rubbish....most of the media were against Trump anyway...
 
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Echoing a statement by Harris a few weeks ago, when she said the government cannot allow Americans to express themselves freely and without regulation on the Internet, "The View" says she would have won if such regulation were implemented.

Yep people are turning away from legacy media and turning more towards social media and podcasts and the like.

The lies and cover-up about Joe Biden’s failing faculties by MSM was probably the last straw.
 
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