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Hillary Clinton: 'Kamala will restore abortion rights nationwide'

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Former Secretary of State and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has voiced her support for Vice President Kamala Harris, vowing that if elected, Harris will “restore abortion rights nationwide.”

Clinton ran for president on the Democratic ticket in 2016, the first woman to run for president for a major political party, winning the popular vote but losing the electoral college vote to Republican opponent Donald Trump.

Speaking at the first night of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Illinois, on Monday evening, Clinton advocated for Harris’ presidential campaign, arguing that it represented a “new chapter in America’s story.”

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Former Secretary of State and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has voiced her support for Vice President Kamala Harris, vowing that if elected, Harris will “restore abortion rights nationwide.”

Clinton ran for president on the Democratic ticket in 2016, the first woman to run for president for a major political party, winning the popular vote but losing the electoral college vote to Republican opponent Donald Trump.

Speaking at the first night of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Illinois, on Monday evening, Clinton advocated for Harris’ presidential campaign, arguing that it represented a “new chapter in America’s story.”

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I don't know of any left-leaning Democrat that is not hoping and praying that the next democratic candidate to win the presidency will work to undo restrictions on the killing of the unborn so long as the mother so-wishes or the family of the mother so-wishes to pressure her to take that step.

If Biden and Harris could have done it - they would. The next two democrats to be put in that same position will try just as hard to do it. The idea that seeing democrats push for abortion "is a new chapter in America's story" is not entirely clear. It looks like "nothing new here" to me.

Everyone who votes for democratic ticket candidates nation-wide knows they are voting pro-abortion no matter what they might say they "prefer" when sitting around the diner table.
 
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Former Secretary of State and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has voiced her support for Vice President Kamala Harris, vowing that if elected, Harris will “restore abortion rights nationwide.”

Clinton ran for president on the Democratic ticket in 2016, the first woman to run for president for a major political party, winning the popular vote but losing the electoral college vote to Republican opponent Donald Trump.

Speaking at the first night of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Illinois, on Monday evening, Clinton advocated for Harris’ presidential campaign, arguing that it represented a “new chapter in America’s story.”

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The problem with accepting the statements of Hillary Clinton , are that she is
hopelessly biased with her feminism.

As I have mentioned, to those of both political parties, the Roe vs Wade
decision is a legal decision, that is based on the meaning of the
Constitution. It is not a feminist versus pro-life case.

There is no legal basis in the Consitution for considering that abortion
on demand is a Consitutional right. Overturning Roe vs. Wade was a
good LEGAL decision.

BUT, radical feminists like Hillary, seem to consider almost all topics
in the light of feminism. You cannot, logically, get Roe vs. Wade again
affirmed by the Supreme Court, without abusing the meaning of the
Constitution.

Perhaps Hillary wants to pass a federal law, that guarantees legal abortion
services to all American citizens. If the pro-abortion Americans can get that
done in Congress, then they can LEGALIZE abortion. But, that is very
different than affirming that abortion is a basic human right (in the Constitution).

Hillary has VERY BIASED opinions, that do not follow careful legal thinking.
She still thinks that she lost the bid to be president, BECAUSE OF male
chauvenists. Actually, she lost becasue she mocked religious conservatives,
and that has little to do with the topic of feminism.

What Hillary thinks, hardly describes the dynamics among American voting.
 
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The problem with accepting the statements of Hillary Clinton , are that she is
hopelessly biased with her feminism.

As I have mentioned, to those of both political parties, the Roe vs Wade
decision is a legal decision, that is based on the meaning of the
Constitution. It is not a feminist versus pro-life case.
Indeed - It is hard to separate "the right to life , liberty and happiness" from the moral issue of murdering babies - unborn or not.

Interesting that abortion was a crime in the early days of America.

from: Abortion in the United States - Wikipedia
"From the American Revolution to the mid-19th century abortion was not an issue of significant controversy; most held to the traditional Protestant Christian belief that personhood began at quickening, sometime between 18 and 21 weeks. It was legal prior to quickening in every state under the common law"

This means those who were framing the constitution viewed the current fervor to abort babies when possible, if desired -- was a crime. They did not think their "right to life liberty and happiness" was an open door to kill unborn babies
There is no legal basis in the Consitution for considering that abortion
on demand is a Consitutional right.
True.
Overturning Roe vs. Wade was a
good LEGAL decision.
amen
BUT, radical feminists like Hillary, seem to consider almost all topics
in the light of feminism. You cannot, logically, get Roe vs. Wade again
affirmed by the Supreme Court, without abusing the meaning of the
Constitution.
And yet "the promise" we are being given is that Harris will do just that - no matter what it takes.
 
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Pro-abortionists state our history this way

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from: The History of Abortion Law in the… | Our Bodies Ourselves Today

The First Abortion Laws (1820s-1930s)​



"Social and legal rules governing abortion can be found dating back to the colonial period. In the British colonies, abortion was legal before “quickening,” the point at which a pregnant person feels the fetus move, generally at around four or five months. (18-21 weeks)
Prohibition against abortion didn’t appear in state statutes until the 1820s, and early laws were ambiguous and not strictly enforced."

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COMPARED To the Bible and Early Christian History ---

from: History of abortion - Wikipedia

Exodus 21:22 describes a situation in which two men fight and injure a pregnant woman, causing her unborn child to leave her womb. The Masoretic text uses the Hebrew term "veyats'u yeladeha" (וְיָצְאוּ יְלָדֶיהָ)[54] to refer to the child coming out;[55] different English versions translate this term either as a "premature birth" or as a "miscarriage".[56] The Spanish translation published by the Sociedad Biblica Catolica Internacional (SOBICAIN) uses the term "aborto", clearly indicating the demise of the fetus.[57] If no additional harm follows, then the perpetrator must pay a fine. Only if there is additional harm must the perpetrator be punished with equal harm (i.e. eye for an eye).[58] Commentators such as Bruce Waltke have presented this verse as evidence that God does not value a fetus as a human being, and/or evidence that a fetus has no soul.[59][60][61][62][63] C. Everett Koop disagreed with this interpretation.[64]

Another Old Testament passage that has been used to argue for divine approval of abortion is Numbers 5:11-31, which describes the test of an unfaithful wife.[65] If a man is suspicious of his wife's fidelity, he would take her to the high priest. The priest would make a substance for the woman to drink made from water and "dust from the tabernacle floor". If she had been unfaithful "her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse." If she was innocent the drink had no effect.[66]

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The early Christian work called the Didache (before 100 AD) says: "do not murder a child by abortion or kill a new-born infant."[67] Tertullian, a 2nd- and 3rd-century Christian theologian argued that abortion should be performed only in cases in which abnormal positioning of the fetus in the womb would endanger the life of the pregnant woman

Saint Augustine believed that abortion of a fetus animatus, a fetus with human limbs and shape, was murder. However, his beliefs on earlier-stage abortion were similar to Aristotle's,[69] though he could neither deny nor affirm whether such partially formed fetuses would be resurrected as full people at the time of the Second Coming.[70]


  • "Now who is there that is not rather disposed to think that unformed abortions perish, like seeds that have never fructified?"[68]
  • "And therefore the following question may be very carefully inquired into and discussed by learned men, though I do not know whether it is in man's power to resolve it: At what time the infant begins to live in the womb: whether life exists in a latent form before it manifests itself in the motions of the living being. To deny that the young who are cut out limb by limb from the womb, lest if they were left there dead the mother should die too, have never been alive, seems too audacious."[71]

The Leges Henrici Primi, written c. 1115, prescribes compensation for a woman or her relatives if another person causes her to miscarry, and prescribes penance (3 years if the abortion occurs before quickening, 7 years after quickening) if the pregnant woman aborts her pregnancy;

====================== later in history

"Though the physicians' campaign against abortion began in the early 1800s, little change was made in the United States until after the Civil War.[87]

"The English law on abortion was first codified in legislation under sections 1 and 2 of Malicious Shooting or Stabbing Act 1803. The Bill was proposed by the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, Edward Law, 1st Baron Ellenborough to clarify the law relating to abortion and was the first law to explicitly outlaw it. The Act provided that it was an offence for any person to perform or cause an abortion. The punishment for performing or attempting to perform a post quickening abortion was the death penalty (section 1) and otherwise was transportation for fourteen years (section 2). In the 19th-century United States, there was little regulation of abortion, in the tradition of English common law, pre quickening abortions were considered at most a misdemeanor. These cases proved difficult to prosecute as the testimony of the mother was usually the only means to determine when quickening had occurred.[88]

"The law was amended in 1828 and 1837 – the latter removed the distinction between women who were quick with child (late pregnancy) and those who were not. It also eliminated the death penalty as a possible punishment. The latter half of the 19th century saw abortion become increasingly punished. One writer justified this by claiming that the number of abortions among married women had increased markedly since 1840.[89] The Offences against the Person Act 1861 created a new preparatory offence of procuring poison or instruments with intent to procure abortion. During the 1860s however abortion services were available in New York, New Orleans, Cincinnati, Louisville, Cleveland, Chicago and Indianapolis; with estimates of one abortion for every 4 live births.[90]

"pro-life (Anti-abortion) statutes began to appear in the United States from the 1820s.
 
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from: Abortion in America: A Visual Timeline

"1800’s:Connecticut was the first U.S. state to make abortion a criminal offense. This was codified in a state statute in 1821 that punished any person who provided or took poison or “other noxious and destructive substance” with the intent to cause “the miscarriage of any woman, then being quick with child.”

"Anti-abortion rights (Pro LIFE) advocate Dr...
Published in the book "Biographical Sketch of Dr. Horatio J. Storer," 1855.
In 1857, anti-abortion rights advocate and women’s reproductive health pioneer Dr. Horatio Storer helped start the movement which would later be called the Physicians’ Crusade Against Abortion. Later that year,
 
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