NYT Call Harris a phoney

Always in His Presence · Aug 28, 2024

The New York Times turns on Kamala Harris and slams her as 'a phony'

The reliably liberal New York Times was among the first to suddenly change tack on Friday, taking aim at what many perceive to be Harris's fatal lack of clear policy with a brutal headline that read: 'Joy Is Not a Strategy'. In a sour commentary, NYT Deputy Opinion Editor Patrick Healy said he'd 'cringed' when former president Bill Clinton took the convention stage on Tuesday to claim that Harris would be 'the president of joy'

Larniavc · Aug 28, 2024

hislegacy said:
The New York Times turns on Kamala Harris and slams her as 'a phony'

The reliably liberal New York Times was among the first to suddenly change tack on Friday, taking aim at what many perceive to be Harris's fatal lack of clear policy with a brutal headline that read: 'Joy Is Not a Strategy'. In a sour commentary, NYT Deputy Opinion Editor Patrick Healy said he'd 'cringed' when former president Bill Clinton took the convention stage on Tuesday to claim that Harris would be 'the president of joy'

Why not take the article from the actual paper?

iluvatar5150 · Aug 28, 2024

hislegacy said:
The New York Times turns on Kamala Harris and slams her as 'a phony'

The reliably liberal New York Times was among the first to suddenly change tack on Friday, taking aim at what many perceive to be Harris's fatal lack of clear policy with a brutal headline that read: 'Joy Is Not a Strategy'. In a sour commentary, NYT Deputy Opinion Editor Patrick Healy said he'd 'cringed' when former president Bill Clinton took the convention stage on Tuesday to claim that Harris would be 'the president of joy'

Your author is full of it. They didn't "turn on" her and call her a phony. It was a conservative guest columnist who did that.
Here's a link to the first op-ed that actually said this:

But joy is not a political strategy. And God is not a political strategy. The good news for Democrats is that Harris seems to understand this.

It's not even a "sour commentary" - it's more a reminder that there's still work to be done, which he acknowledges that Harris is doing.

Regarding Rich Lowry - of course he would have a negative opinion of what Harris values. He's the editor in chief of National Review.

iluvatar5150 · Aug 28, 2024

Larniavc said:
Why not take the article from the actual paper?

Because nobody reading it honestly would come to the conclusion that this author did, and that wouldn't be good for pointing the finger at Harris.

QvQ · Aug 28, 2024

Two policies that Harris introduced are going to sour all of the wealthy folks who are the leaders of both parties:
1) Price controls
2) Tax on unrealized gains
Supposedly, the tax on unrealized gains would only be for the rich however, just like inheritance taxes, those taxes sooner than later become blanket taxes on all incomes. Inheritance tax was, at first, only for the rich Vanderbilt class.
Harris will be the least popular candidate on all media channels as the owners of the networks are also investors.

Always in His Presence · Aug 28, 2024

Larniavc said:
Why not take the article from the actual paper?

I only take complaints on Thursdays in months with no r's.

Always in His Presence · Aug 28, 2024

From the link:

How's that going to help the millions of Americans whose livelihoods are now at stake, Healey asked? And why has Harris failed to conduct a single interview or serious press conference since Biden stepped aside last month? 'Ultimately, she needs more voters in the swing states to trust her to handle the economy better than her opponent… Harris can't coast on "joy",' he concluded witheringly. But worse was to come from the Times. On Monday, the newspaper published a guest essay titled 'Trump can win on character', by conservative commentator Rich Lowry. Pulling no punches, Lowry wrote that Harris is 'weak and a phony and doesn't truly care about the country or the middle class.'

iluvatar5150 · Aug 28, 2024

QvQ said:
Supposedly, the tax on unrealized gains would only be for the rich however, just like inheritance taxes, those taxes sooner than later become blanket taxes on all incomes. Inheritance tax was, at first, only for the rich Vanderbilt class.

The federal estate tax exempts the first $13.6 million. That's not Vanderbilt territory, but it's certainly affluent.

iluvatar5150 · Aug 28, 2024

hislegacy said:
From the link:

How's that going to help the millions of Americans whose livelihoods are now at stake, Healey asked? And why has Harris failed to conduct a single interview or serious press conference since Biden stepped aside last month? 'Ultimately, she needs more voters in the swing states to trust her to handle the economy better than her opponent… Harris can't coast on "joy",' he concluded witheringly. But worse was to come from the Times. On Monday, the newspaper published a guest essay titled 'Trump can win on character', by conservative commentator Rich Lowry. Pulling no punches, Lowry wrote that Harris is 'weak and a phony and doesn't truly care about the country or the middle class.'

I already posted a link to Healy's full piece, which presents a rather different tone than your author does. Here's Lowry's full piece:

Opinion | Trump Can Win on Character

Presidential races are won and lost on character as much as the issues, and often the issues are proxies for character.

www.nytimes.com

Here's how he defines "character":

Presidential races are won and lost on character as much as the issues, and often the issues are proxies for character. Not character in the sense of a candidate’s personal life but the attributes that play into the question of whether someone is suited to the presidency — is he or she qualified, trustworthy and strong, and does he or she care about average Americans?

And his full comments about Kamala being "phony":

The Obama team hammered Mitt Romney on the issues in 2012, but pretty much every policy argument went back to the core contention that he was a heartless, out-of-touch capitalist who valued the bottom line more than people. That ended up being the winning argument of the campaign.

By the same token, Mr. Trump isn’t going to beat Ms. Harris by scoring points in the debate over price controls or the border.

Everything has to be connected to the deeper case that Ms. Harris is weak and a phony and doesn’t truly care about the country or the middle class. The scattershot Trump attacks on Ms. Harris need to be refocused on these character attributes.

The whole thing reads as an admonition to the Trump campaign similar to how Healy's piece was an admonition to the Harris campaign. It wasn't the anti-Harris screed that your author claims it is.

QvQ · Aug 28, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
The federal estate tax exempts the first $13.6 million. That's not Vanderbilt territory, but it's certainly affluent.

Tax on unrealized gains has been proposed as a tax on all stocks, real estate and other investments.
It will not be on "assets" lump sum but on specific assets.
Property taxes are a type of tax on unrealized gain. It could become a Federal tax very easily. Then stocks, as the unrealized gains are easy to document.
A Federal property tax, in effect.
The tax could apply to all property, regardless of whether total assets were in Vanderbilt territory.

Always in His Presence · Aug 28, 2024

another accusation of being phony

Don’t believe for one minute Kamala Harris’ fantasy pivot on open border

Vice President Kamala Harris has rightly been tagged as both a phony and a flip-flopper.

Her latest on immigration combines these two — a phony flip-flop.

The Beltway is all atwitter with news that “Harris flip-flops on building the border wall.”

You see, she said in her convention speech that she’d sign the failed Senate border bill, and that bill included spending on the wall, so that must mean she’s now in favor of the wall.

Build the Wall!

Vote . . . Kamala?

Fantine · Aug 28, 2024

If you make over $100 million a year, you can worry. The rest of us can sit easy.
Stop worrying about billionaires. They're doing just fine.

Yes, Harris Plans to Institute 25% Tax on Unrealized Capital Gains — of Wealthiest Americans

The plan will be "the absolute end of the middle class," U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert, from Colorado, claimed in an X post.

www.snopes.com

QvQ · Aug 28, 2024

Fantine said:
If you make over $100 million a year, you can worry. The rest of us can sit easy.
Stop worrying about billionaires. They're doing just fine.

"Send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee."

Unrealized capital gains tax is a Federal Property Tax. It can and will be applied to all property eventually, probably sooner than later.

One caveat: Federal Property Taxes have been proposed many times in the history of the Republic so it is unlikely this tax will pass the Constitutional muster as direct taxes and wealth taxes are prohibited to Feds.

DaisyDay · Aug 28, 2024

Larniavc said:
Why not take the article from the actual paper?

The DailyMail didn't even link to any NYT story. Totally bogus.

FreeinChrist · Aug 28, 2024

The New York Times did not turn on Harris. It included a opinion piece that had some criticism.
The title of the thread is not true.

Here is the link to the actual opinion piece. Note that he was pretty critical of Trump, moreso than of Harris:

Opinion | Joy Is Not a Strategy

A good convention speech isn’t enough to earn the trust of voters.

www.nytimes.com

Harris gave a good speech Thursday. Her love for America was overflowing — a child of immigrants’ love, as the Democratic strategist Howard Wolfson put it to me. Republicans like to tag Democrats as down on America and its history, but it was interesting that when Harris radiated pride, it was not pride as a Black woman or pride as a glass-ceiling breaker; it was pride as an American. She was open and relatable and repeatedly put voters first. Meanwhile, Trump keeps playing God, calling in to Fox News as if entitled to airtime and making pronouncements about Harris from on high before being cut off.

This is a winnable race for Harris, but she hasn’t won it yet. Far from it. She hasn’t been tested — really tested — since Biden stepped aside. She hasn’t given a single interview or news conference to face hard questions. But it’s really the debates that will be her test. Her advisers think she might get away with doing just one against Trump. I think they underestimate her challenge in earning voters’ trust. She needs to start proving herself outside her comfort zone.

There was no turning on Harris. He did not call her a phony. That is just a lie. MSN is not MSNBC and is not a pro-Democratic Party site. No wonder the OP linked to MSN rather than the actual article that folks can read.

FreeinChrist · Aug 28, 2024

hislegacy said:
another accusation of being phony

Don’t believe for one minute Kamala Harris’ fantasy pivot on open border

Vice President Kamala Harris has rightly been tagged as both a phony and a flip-flopper.

Her latest on immigration combines these two — a phony flip-flop.

The Beltway is all atwitter with news that “Harris flip-flops on building the border wall.”

You see, she said in her convention speech that she’d sign the failed Senate border bill, and that bill included spending on the wall, so that must mean she’s now in favor of the wall.

Build the Wall!

Vote . . . Kamala?

The NYPost runs articles that are hit pieces for the Republican Party. Articles from that paper belong in the circular file as they are trash.

Larniavc · Aug 28, 2024

hislegacy said:
I only take complaints on Thursdays in months with no r's.

When questions become complaints you know you’re on the baddies side.

Always in His Presence · Aug 28, 2024

FreeinChrist said:
The NYPost runs articles that are hit pieces for the Republican Party. Articles from that paper belong in the circular file as they are trash.

Thank you for your opinion.

Their polar opposite is Salon an online publication that openly promotes pedophilia and does hit pieces for the Democratic Party.

They are lower than trash

Yet, both are cited on CF as resources. Go figure.

Always in His Presence · Aug 28, 2024

Larniavc said:
When questions become complaints you know you’re on the baddies side.

No - I am a Conservative Republican. Not sure how you made that error.

Belk · Aug 28, 2024

QvQ said:
"Send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee."

Unrealized capital gains tax is a Federal Property Tax. It can and will be applied to all property eventually, probably sooner than later.

One caveat: Federal Property Taxes have been proposed many times in the history of the Republic so it is unlikely this tax will pass the Constitutional muster as direct taxes and wealth taxes are prohibited to Feds.

According to whom?

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