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Did God ordain my sinful choices?

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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.

When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
 

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Did God ordain our sinful choices . No way and no how .
As far as going back to change anything its but a vain thought . we cannot change the past .
The only thing one can do is to put all hope and trust in THE GOD who CAN change the wicked and lustful hearts of men .
GOD allows . But does not CONDONE . as i am sure you would probably agree with that .
You are , however in error on something .
A lot of folks say what you say . Believing each BAD CHOICE etc .
Oh bad choices sure will lead us down a road of destruction and in the end peridtion .
BUT no bad choice , no evil we do or did , no carnal thought even , LED or leads us TO GOD .
Your speech almost praises bad as though bad LED YOU to GOOD . no sir . it cannot be allowed on watch .
And where would my love be for you if i allowed such carnal thoughts to take you subject unto it .
How many men and women do evil and yet continue in evil and in the end will face the second death . MANY .
Our evil did not teach us anything . carnal wisdom can give partial truths and make it seem so
But many today are still in deadly danger of hell fire and give praise to themselves or thier journey
or their etc for having overcome their own problems .
Men do evil , this is a fact . humanity does evil this is a fact .
But we do not learn from the evil , we might suffer damage and hurt due to it . Yeah that do happen .
But even a buddists can experience sufferings due to his ill decisions . and maybe even learn not to do such a thing again .
But that there buddist gonna burn in a lake of fire , lest that their buddist repents and cometh to THE CHRIST of GOD
who then will also change the heart to serve the LIVING and TRUE GOD .
Physcologies and even false religoins can teach concepts about doing good and learning from past mistakes
But they all walk in darkness and in the end peridtion awaits . LEST of course repentance be made
and they repent of their wicked false mindset and religoin and BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS and have eternal life
and THE SPIRIT by which THEY CAN SERVE GOD ACCEPTABLEY as HE has always desired to be served .
The carnal wisdom of men might speak some truths , BUT IT WONT SAVE ONE SOUL . Its time we get
back into the bible again and LEARN OF HE WHO CAN BOTH SAVE AND TRULY CHANGE man . LEARN HIS CHRIST
his WORDS and stay refreshed in them daily .
IF you see this as an attack , THEN YOU are SEEING THIS ALL WRONG . ITS A LOVE MESSAGE MY FRIEND
to one i desire ONLY GOOD FOR ..................
 
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Did God ordain our sinful choices . No way and no how .
As far as going back to change anything its but a vain thought . we cannot change the past .
The only thing one can do is to put all hope and trust in THE GOD who CAN change the wicked and lustful hearts of men .
GOD allows . But does not CONDONE . as i am sure you would probably agree with that .
You are , however in error on something .
A lot of folks say what you say . Believing each BAD CHOICE etc .
Oh bad choices sure will lead us down a road of destruction and in the end peridtion .
BUT no bad choice , no evil we do or did , no carnal thought even , LED or leads us TO GOD .
Your speech almost praises bad as though bad LED YOU to GOOD . no sir . it cannot be allowed on watch .
And where would my love be for you if i allowed such carnal thoughts to take you subject unto it .
How many men and women do evil and yet continue in evil and in the end will face the second death . MANY .
Our evil did not teach us anything . carnal wisdom can give partial truths and make it seem so
But many today are still in deadly danger of hell fire and give praise to themselves or thier journey
or their etc for having overcome their own problems .
Men do evil , this is a fact . humanity does evil this is a fact .
But we do not learn from the evil , we might suffer damage and hurt due to it . Yeah that do happen .
But even a buddists can experience sufferings due to his ill decisions . and maybe even learn not to do such a thing again .
But that there buddist gonna burn in a lake of fire , lest that their buddist repents and cometh to THE CHRIST of GOD
who then will also change the heart to serve the LIVING and TRUE GOD .
Physcologies and even false religoins can teach concepts about doing good and learning from past mistakes
But they all walk in darkness and in the end peridtion awaits . LEST of course repentance be made
and they repent of their wicked false mindset and religoin and BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS and have eternal life
and THE SPIRIT by which THEY CAN SERVE GOD ACCEPTABLEY as HE has always desired to be served .
The carnal wisdom of men might speak some truths , BUT IT WONT SAVE ONE SOUL . Its time we get
back into the bible again and LEARN OF HE WHO CAN BOTH SAVE AND TRULY CHANGE man . LEARN HIS CHRIST
his WORDS and stay refreshed in them daily .
IF you see this as an attack , THEN YOU are SEEING THIS ALL WRONG . ITS A LOVE MESSAGE MY FRIEND
to one i desire ONLY GOOD FOR ..................
Thank you so much brother. It is only LOVE that could propel someone to take the time to form such thoughts and share your wisdom. If it appears that I glorify my sinful choices, please forgive me. It is NEVER my intention to do that, only to show others lost in similar darkness, that they are not alone and that Christ will pursue them and pull them out of any dark pit they have stumbled upon, or jumped joyously into. When I look in the mirror, I do not see a convicted felon, I see the beautiful eyes of Jesus Christ looking back at me. But it wasn't always like that, for a long time I felt that God would never accept me over my choices, that I would burn in Hell for eternity, even after I was saved, but now I know there is nothing that can overpower the Blood of the Lamb. Hallelujah!
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.

When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
I feel you! We all make bad choices but God does turn them into good. My daughter had my granddaughter out of wedlock but this granddaughter made me recognize that I had a problem with alcohol. When I look back on my youth most of the sins I committed were due to my selfish desires. I used to read the bible about sin I used to ask myself what applied to me. I had a heart attack last year over worry about our divisiveness and wars and as I lay in ICU for 2 days I kept asking God what going on in the world "Love your neighbor" kept coming to mind and I rejected it until the 2nd day I finally snapped. Now reading scriptures I no longer compare sins to myself but how sins affect other people.
 
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Thank you so much brother. It is only LOVE that could propel someone to take the time to form such thoughts and share your wisdom. If it appears that I glorify my sinful choices, please forgive me. It is NEVER my intention to do that, only to show others lost in similar darkness, that they are not alone and that Christ will pursue them and pull them out of any dark pit they have stumbled upon, or jumped joyously into. When I look in the mirror, I do not see a convicted felon, I see the beautiful eyes of Jesus Christ looking back at me. But it wasn't always like that, for a long time I felt that God would never accept me over my choices, that I would burn in Hell for eternity, even after I was saved, but now I know there is nothing that can overpower the Blood of the Lamb. Hallelujah!
By grace i have learned my friend and learned this i have .
THERE IS NOTHING GOOD IN ME OR IN MAN . THE ONLY GOODNESS i have COMETH OF THE HOLY SPIRIT within me .
That i am saved , but not because of who or what i am , But rather FOR WHAT GOD DID through JESUS CHRIST THE SON .
AND by HIS grace HE drew me to THE SON and the SON reveals the Father to me .
I was KING of the worst my friend . KING of the worst . AND YET by the mercy and Grace of GOD
which drew me to CHRIST , having FAITH IN HE AND IN HE ALONE , i now have all HOPE .
And that by THAT SPIRIT , that SPIRIT that do so guide me , I HAVE ALL I NEED to overcome the evils
of even my own contrary flesh .
You see when i look at myself in the mirror , please dont think i accuse you for what you said i dont ,
and i look into those eyes , I say THANK GOD FOR JESUS THE CHRIST
cause were it not for him the man i see before me in that mirror WOULD HAVE ZERO HOPE
WHEN i look to myself , that is my own ablities , my own flesh , I SEE naught but hoplessness and wickedness
for evil is present still within us . BUT I DONT LOOK TO ME , TO LOOK TO ME is to FAIL and to fall
BUT TO LOOK TO CHRIST is to overcome and prevail . THERE IS NOTHING GOOD IN ME MY FRIEND
that is in my flesh , BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD and OF CHRIST WITHIN ME , THAT IS MY GOOD
my righteousness , and by that same spirit i have both the DESIRE and abliity TO SERVE GOD as HE DESIRES TO BE SERVED .
I aint no victim to sin , but if i serve it i am its slave .
BUT PRAISE GOD for the HOLY GHOST MY FRIEND , by which i have the power , the reminder
to not serve them evil thoughts when they do pop into my mind but rather to HEED THE SPIRIT and not the flesh .
YOU SEE , by grace i have learned and learned by grace i have
that I am but a man IN TOTAL AND CONSTANT NEED OF GOD OF CHRIST AT ALL TIMES
and that without HIM i can do nothing , BUT FAIL but that in him i can PREVAIL . Let us give GOD THE GLORY my dear friend .
Not a word of this is written as an accusation against you at all . Rather to encourage and to exhort and remind you .
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.

When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!

Here are a few passages to consider brother.

“Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2‬:‭4‬-‭5‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Notice that despite God’s kindness and patience leading these people to repentance they are still condemned because of their stubbornness and refusal to comply.

“And He began telling this parable: “A man had a fig tree which had been planted in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it and did not find any. And he said to the vineyard-keeper, ‘Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. Cut it down! Why does it even use up the ground?’ And he answered and said to him, ‘Let it alone, sir, for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer; and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not, cut it down.’ ””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13‬:‭6‬-‭9‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Notice that despite Jesus giving special attention to the tree, the outcome of the tree is still uncertain whether it will bear fruit or be chopped down. It’s a clear indication that our cooperation with God is required to receive salvation.


““See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, and death and adversity; in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, that you may live and multiply, and that the Lord your God may bless you in the land where you are entering to possess it. But if your heart turns away and you will not obey, but are drawn away and worship other gods and serve them, I declare to you today that you shall surely perish. You will not prolong your days in the land where you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess it. I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30‬:‭15‬-‭19‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

In this passage God clearly put the choice of life or death in our hands and urges us to choose life.

There are also passages where God specifically says that He had no participation in some activities.

“I will destine you for the sword, And all of you will bow down to the slaughter. Because I called, but you did not answer; I spoke, but you did not hear. And you did evil in My sight And chose that in which I did not delight.””

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65‬:‭12‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬



“They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, and it did not come into My mind.

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭7‬:‭31‬ ‭NASB1995‬

There’s plenty of evidence that contradicts the idea that God controls everything. This is why it’s imperative that we know the scriptures so that we can take passages like these into consideration when formulating our doctrines and beliefs.
 
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By grace i have learned my friend and learned this i have .
THERE IS NOTHING GOOD IN ME OR IN MAN . THE ONLY GOODNESS i have COMETH OF THE HOLY SPIRIT within me .
That i am saved , but not because of who or what i am , But rather FOR WHAT GOD DID through JESUS CHRIST THE SON .
AND by HIS grace HE drew me to THE SON and the SON reveals the Father to me .
I was KING of the worst my friend . KING of the worst . AND YET by the mercy and Grace of GOD
which drew me to CHRIST , having FAITH IN HE AND IN HE ALONE , i now have all HOPE .
And that by THAT SPIRIT , that SPIRIT that do so guide me , I HAVE ALL I NEED to overcome the evils
of even my own contrary flesh .
You see when i look at myself in the mirror , please dont think i accuse you for what you said i dont ,
and i look into those eyes , I say THANK GOD FOR JESUS THE CHRIST
cause were it not for him the man i see before me in that mirror WOULD HAVE ZERO HOPE
WHEN i look to myself , that is my own ablities , my own flesh , I SEE naught but hoplessness and wickedness
for evil is present still within us . BUT I DONT LOOK TO ME , TO LOOK TO ME is to FAIL and to fall
BUT TO LOOK TO CHRIST is to overcome and prevail . THERE IS NOTHING GOOD IN ME MY FRIEND
that is in my flesh , BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD and OF CHRIST WITHIN ME , THAT IS MY GOOD
my righteousness , and by that same spirit i have both the DESIRE and abliity TO SERVE GOD as HE DESIRES TO BE SERVED .
I aint no victim to sin , but if i serve it i am its slave .
BUT PRAISE GOD for the HOLY GHOST MY FRIEND , by which i have the power , the reminder
to not serve them evil thoughts when they do pop into my mind but rather to HEED THE SPIRIT and not the flesh .
YOU SEE , by grace i have learned and learned by grace i have
that I am but a man IN TOTAL AND CONSTANT NEED OF GOD OF CHRIST AT ALL TIMES
and that without HIM i can do nothing , BUT FAIL but that in him i can PREVAIL . Let us give GOD THE GLORY my dear friend .
Not a word of this is written as an accusation against you at all . Rather to encourage and to exhort and remind you .
I think this is based on a reference to what Paul wrote in Romans 3 & 7 but in my opinion I believe some of his statements were intended to be taken as proverbial sayings. No one is seeking for God, there are none who are righteous, if these are intended to be taken literally they would be contradictory to other passages of men who were declared righteous and it would imply that even the authors of these OT references were not seeking for God which is precisely what they were doing when they wrote these sayings.
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.
When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
God ordained your ability to make your sinful choices (yours being one of many, with its path to redemption being one of many).
God ordained your birth as his natural enemy (Ro 5:10), hostile to him and unable to please him (Ro 8:7-8).
God ordained your sovereign (as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) rebirth (Jn 3:3-5) by the Holy Spirit.
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.

When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
No, he did not ordain it, however, we see in Deuteronomy 23:5 that he can, and does, turn curses into blessings. Perhaps your past failures will be used to guide others away from the same trap you fell into so long ago?
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination.
You might have more to learn.

"if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know." (1 Corinthians 8:1)
One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody?
Yes, God could have been protecting your children from that. And, of course, He could have been protecting them from having you as their father while you were the way you were at that time. And yet, even if you lost them or you were their horrible father, still Jesus could save them and then have them use their bad experience to help them minister to others.
As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point.
Well, you can submit to how God now changes you and then discover how you become able to make choices with Him.

But if it were possible not to do past evils that I have done; I would think, of course, change those horrible choices. And love instead. However, of course, I can learn from past choices, now, even if I can not change them.

But if I could go back and do differently, certainly do not make those bad choices again!! But as reality is, yes do use your past.

**But you will grow in Jesus so you have more and more ministerial resources which will be more and better and other than your past experience.**

So, I would say, do not build your whole ministry on how you can use your sinful past. Among other things, learn from the past and the Christian experience of various other children of God.
And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.
Amen! Good! But grow more to discover more how our Father creates your life, and you enjoy the choices *He* will be making.
When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory.
I understand that God is in absolute control of all. And yes He does use evil for His good outcome, as shown happened with Joseph > Genesis 37-50. Have you read and fed on this?

But God does not cause the evil (James 1:13). What I have is that He manages which way it is allowed to go, like He did with Job and Satan.

And we see how God acted according to the character of ones who were not "thankful" > Romans 1:18-32. Possibly, God turned you over to your evil drives and passions, as a punishment, like happened with the ones in Romans 1:18-32. But then He had mercy on you. And others in their sinning have been released into the traps and prisons that have kept them from doing whatsoever they pleased, likely much worse than they did do.

"God resists the proud" (in 1 Peter 5:5, James 4:6). His resistance might have kept you from getting into much worse, especially within you.
By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
Thank You, God!!!

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)
 
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Yes, I am sure that is true of everyone
But God does not cause the evil (James 1:13).

God absolutely creates evil, Isaiah 45:7 clearly states it:
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

The verse you quoted says God does not tempt anyone to sin, but He does create evil. Everything in creation flows out of Him for His glory.
 
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Thanks for the testimony Keith. Sounds as if you had to hit rock bottom in order to start looking up. I think back to when I was a kid when I first started my own path as an adolescent being ten. As I was making my first cognitive step away from what He would have. The over whelming since of guilt was deafening. My heart, every once of my being was trying to tear me away from the action to which I had set my mind on. It was actually extremely hard the first time to complete the task. Then it got easier, and easier.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison
I am extremely curious what this is all about.
. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
Praise God my friend! That is great news!
So your wife is pregnant with twins and you were told they would be boys? Or you and her were told that she would be?
 
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Yes, I am sure that is true of everyone


God absolutely creates evil, Isaiah 45:7 clearly states it:
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

The verse you quoted says God does not tempt anyone to sin, but He does create evil. Everything in creation flows out of Him for His glory.
If you think evil here in Isaiah means sin. God did not create sin. He created Satan and us. We as all who choose evil, in the since of sin have the compacity for such. Evil simply put is a life outside of one that refuses the work He does in us both to will do His good pleasure. There is only life in and through Him. This is why Paul said to the pagans we are all one blood, and in Him we live, move, and have our being.


But He has and will continue to create evil in the since of calamity to punish the stiff necked or hard hearted and or to draw us back to Him. That is what the context is bringing out in Isaiah.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isa 45:8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
Isa 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
Isa 45:10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?
Isa 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
 
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I am extremely curious what this is all about.
God told me I have to tell the whole world... so I wrote about it. In 2021, the FBI raided my home and office for child pornography. I was prosecuted for 2 counts of possession and was offered a plea deal for 1 count (this is all public record: Keith Mosher, Las Vegas, NV). I was sentenced to three years, which is being served now on probation. My probation ends January 11, 2025. This depravity was the culmination of a 40 year addiction to porn that started when I was 9 years old. As I am writing about in my new book, the Devil's Pipeline, porn is designed to take anyone to deep dark, depraved content they never would have imagined. It's a deadly addiction, and one that is destroying the hearts of men and women in record numbers. Here are some of the scary stats I researched in preparation for my book:

  1. The US is the worlds largest consumer of child pornography or CSAM
  2. The most popular categories of porn are teen and barely legal (the pipeline to child porn)
  3. 2 out of 10 people that watch porn, look at child porn
The Lord has put me on mission to help men and women escape porn before it's too late. For months I was too scared to talk about it at all, as this sin carries a scarlet letter that is worse than a mass murderer, for good reason. God has protected me, lifted me up from that dark pit and called me into service for His Kingdom, but now that same truth that set me free from porn, is the same truth I have to shout from the rooftops. If one man hears or reads my testimony and comes out of the darkness to seek help, then it was all worth it.... and that has already happened, many times. But now I have to prepare to travel the world and give my testimony, without fear.
 
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the FBI raided my home and office for child pornography.
I thought so but did not want to assume. Once I received a PM while I was moderating a Christian discussion site similar to this one. I open it and it was a direct link to a child porn site. It loaded quick with images. It was sitting there on my PC for maybe 5 seconds or so before I panicked and popped out of it. And it was at that moment that I realized that certain layers of sin come with a powerful demon like draw. It was as if some power was pushing me into to it from within my very body. At that point I realized that, though we have to make the choice there are demons opposing God's Spirit pushing us into whatever we have been exposed to. Quite the eye opener.



As I am writing about in my new book, the Devil's Pipeline, porn is designed to take anyone to deep dark, depraved content they never would have imagined. It's a deadly addiction, and one that is destroying the hearts of men and women in record numbers.
Praise God!
The Lord has put me on mission to help men and women escape porn before it's too late. For months I was too scared to talk about it at all, as this sin carries a scarlet letter that is worse than a mass murderer, for good reason. God has protected me, lifted me up from that dark pit and called me into service for His Kingdom, but now that same truth that set me free from porn, is the same truth I have to shout from the rooftops. If one man hears or reads my testimony and comes out of the darkness to seek help, then it was all worth it.... and that has already happened, many times. But now I have to prepare to travel the world and give my testimony, without fear.
Praise God! Be careful. Narcissism is a another demon that runs rapid in this world and God's would be Ministers. I would hate for that demon to move in your cleanly swept house. I think it is worse than the other to get rid of. Because of it's lack of Materialistic evidence.
 
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Praise God! Be careful. Narcissism is a another demon that runs rapid in this world and God's would be Ministers. I would hate for that demon to move in your cleanly swept house. I think it is worse than the other to get rid of. Because of it's lack of Materialistic evidence.
You see into the spiritual realm quite clearly. Narcissism was already inside for many years working hand in hand with the jezebel spirit. Both gone now along with others.
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.

When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
Not sure i understand, but I'd say the sinful act of your past was due to your freewill, yet God turned it around for good because that is his will and you can't get beyond his will.
 
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The Lord is good, and there is no evil in Him. Did Jesus came for the righteous, or for sinners ? For sinners, in their favour !
The Light can only shine in the darkness. He does not return evil for evil, He is not in the "eye for eye, tooth for tooth". He does not punish, nor accuse, nor condemn anyone. Those things belongs to satan, who is the one who's responsible for the sin entering into the world..
Jesus said that he is "a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

We can resume God's justice this way : one sin, Another pays, and it is normal says God. He does not impute us our faults. Otherwise, why would have Jesus come and die on the cross ? Although He was innocent, He took the condemnation on Himself, making Himself guilty, rather than incriminate us. By doing this, He, the Son of God, destroyed the works of the devil. That is why He came.

Faith is enough, and that's the only thing precious in the eyes of God. This direct link that it is, the intimacy, this transmission channel, is coming from Him, and links us to all the benefits that are in Him. To the Promise He made to Abram, engaging Himself to take care of Abram, and all families of the earth.

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath [already] everlasting life." (John 6:47)
-said Jesus to the Jews. It is all about faith, in Him, in what He is, what He does, what He says.

"Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"
-Faith is His only concern, the only thing He values, because it comes from Him. "Believe in me, and I will take care of you" propose in sum the Lord, to everyone who's tired of who he is, of his life.

Kind regards, in Him,

Hugo
 
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Let me start by saying I understand the wide gap and debate between free will and predestination. One of the many consequences of my dark sinful past of pornography and lust, is that my wife and I never had children. This was the greatest source of hurt for many years, I always wanted a son or daughter. But when my sin culminated in an FBI raid and facing 20 years in prison, my friend made an observation. What might have happened to my young children, if I had gone to prison? Would they have been taken by the state? Would my wife be forced to divorce me, to regain custody? As I sit here today, I know I am uniquely equipped to help many men, and women, who are lost in the dark vacuum of porn addiction, and even though I have made some of the worst choices a man could make, I would not go back and change anything, because each choice has brought me to this point. And right now, God is restoring all the years the locusts have eaten (Joel 2:25), and I as for my house, we serve the Lord. Every single day.

When I see in the Bible, that God is in control of all things, I cannot find where it says, He is in control of some things, some of the time. It only says He is in control of ALL things, and I sit back in awe of his mighty glory. By the way, the Lord has revealed to us, through several people, that we are having 2 sons, Noah Joseph LeRoy, and Samuel David Matthew, all praise and glory to God!
I don't think we know Gods mind and we try to understand with our limited knowledge that is influenced by several factors including the individual, family and cultural levels.

I think Gods understands our fallen state in the context of a greater reality of good and evil that is playing out. In some ways we are the product of what has happened beyond us in the heavenly realm but was also inevitable if there is goodness there must be evil. But that sin and evil is but a blot that will be wiped out in the end once it is played out in humankind.

We are Gods creation but was have all fallen and are in need of saving grace. Why some take up that grace and others don't I don't know. But its a battle between our fallen state and our Christ like state and those who take up Christ will overcome that fallen state. You heard God calling and responded and we all get that opportunity I believe.

Porn is a powerful tool to decieve people and lure them into a mindset that opposes God in many ways. Almost like a spell and it is a spiritual battle with all sin like the deadly sins of greed, lust, envy, ect. Especially today where these are not even seen as sins but a part of modern life.

But God can break though this and sometimes its when we are in the depths of that sin that we see we are sinners, we see our fallen nature and realise we are powerless over it and only Christ can set us free.
 
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