Prepping for WW3/Civil War Recommendations

What about nuclear fallout over all the ground. How long can we live in it? Only in the country will life be ok for awhile because of nuclear fall out we there will live for awhile. But the cities…. Our are you only figuring on a dirty bomb that will stop the grid…. We live 125 miles from a large city. So months years, weeks. I don’t relish starving to death or radiation overdose. What is your scenario of the apocalypse?

wouldn't you need like 10 or 20 years worth of supplies to survive a a nuclear fallout? if it's really bad, even that would not be enough.

Yeah they talked about fallout in the 60s, don’t have any numbers. Yeah a big war, just kiss it off. There is a good book on the subject called. On the Beach. Very exciting, well done. Really no place to go to get away from it. Maybe under ground, but your air system will pump it in.

after the war the Israelis will face there will be a remnant of 1.8 million or so. And maybe the preppers in the USA and abroad. I will either not live to see it or will be taken in the rapture before then. That’s what I’m counting on I don’t have it to prep. I trust God. Why would the bride have to endure a horrible death before the marriage supper.
some will. Hopeful words, comforting. God always make provision for the remnant.

There will be an Eze 38 war. But the nations will never be wiped out even after Armageddon and the great tribulation. There are people outside the new Jerusalem and who would we rule?. The lake of fire will have many or all- not sure. How few are the remnant that go through the narrow gate? Any ideas?

I have 2 ton of marrow bones buried.

Only problem being is that i cant remember where!!!

Hazelelponi said:

I'm not a doomsday prepper. Heads up.

However, I feel moved now to begin getting ready for anything.

While I'm not a prepper I have food insecurity issues (personal) and really do have enough food for about a month and a half at all times.

I keep two weeks worth of regular groceries on hand as well as staple items like 20 pounds of rice, 20 pounds of beans and two large jars of peanut butter. (I can make my own bread and such and I keep a good amount of flour on hand etc as well)

I've been excellent with animal husbandry but fail miserably at gardening. If it doesn't grow wild in my area I can't get it to grow...

I gave up on gardening as a result many years ago and the last two years my husband is trying but his green thumb is about like mine, non-existent thus far.

we have propane heat and there's enough in the tank to get us through a year...

What do you suggest I might need to think about.

I'm disabled so being in good enough shape to do things like get up to the spring for water I figure is priority #1.

Priority two is probably try and do things like build a hog pen and a chicken coop for the yard.

Should I try keeping more food?

What am I not thinking about?

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We had a multi-day power outage after a windstorm. It got me thinking. We had cold tap water, we had gas for the stove, we had working cars, the internet was available, and I had some small battery backup devices.

Candles are OK.
A refrigerator keeps cool for almost 18 hours as long as you don't open it.
Keeping cell phones charged from the cars was easy enough.
One car has a wimpy 150 watt inverter but that was able to keep my laptop charged.
Stoplights don't work, and traffic really really backs up.
Bucket baths work with water warmed by the sun.
We could spray down the roof to keep the house a bit cooler.
It gets really hot and uncomfortable at night nonetheless.

Getting the battery backups recharged was a real chore. It became a twice a day ritual to lug those thing to a friend's house to get them charged up. I wanted to keep my fish alive and that required some air pumps. But the battery backups beeped obnoxiously and I never did figure out how to turn off the beep on one of them. No fish died. But man was that tedious. In a real catastrophe the fish are going to be toast. Instead I would fire up the cable modem and router on occasion for information, presuming internet was still available.

Food wasn't a huge issue for us. We packed out the fridge to our daughter's house. We threw some marginal stuff out but saved most of it. We did OK. But the local grocery store had stuff they had to throw out while they waited for an emergency generator to arrive. In a worse sort of crisis I imagine the shelves could empty, the emergency generator could be hijacked, and we would only have the food to eat that was already on hand.

I had a job that day installing some computer networking equipment. The building I was at had power. But one of their other buildings didn't, and they lost a day of production waiting on their emergency generator to arrive from 400 miles away. In a worse crisis would I have even been able to work?

WW3 seems like it could happen soon enough, and that it wouldn't be all 'over there'. And we are polarized to the point that civil war is becoming thinkable too. Energy security becomes a thing in both scenarios. Food security ditto. Water and sewage and trash removal? I know I can live without electricity for a while, for a few days anyhow. I did it for two years when I was younger. The big bag of rice, the big bag of beans, and the multiple jars of peanut butter go a long way. One good dish from West Africa is Domoda, which is basically rice and peanut sauce with tomatoes. Chickens work, but you have to feed them too. They forage but they need some high protein food too, at least to produce eggs in any quantity.

So do you have a stable drinking water situation? I filtered and boiled water for two years. That requires fuel for the boilage. I have a creek near me now, but the prospects of working to clean that up to be drinkable do not excite me. It would need hours of settling, running through a ceramic filter, activated carbon cleanup, and then boiling. Not relishing that at all.

Hazelelponi said:

I'm not a doomsday prepper. Heads up.

However, I feel moved now to begin getting ready for anything.

While I'm not a prepper I have food insecurity issues (personal) and really do have enough food for about a month and a half at all times.

I keep two weeks worth of regular groceries on hand as well as staple items like 20 pounds of rice, 20 pounds of beans and two large jars of peanut butter. (I can make my own bread and such and I keep a good amount of flour on hand etc as well)

I've been excellent with animal husbandry but fail miserably at gardening. If it doesn't grow wild in my area I can't get it to grow...

I gave up on gardening as a result many years ago and the last two years my husband is trying but his green thumb is about like mine, non-existent thus far.

we have propane heat and there's enough in the tank to get us through a year...

What do you suggest I might need to think about.

I'm disabled so being in good enough shape to do things like get up to the spring for water I figure is priority #1.

Priority two is probably try and do things like build a hog pen and a chicken coop for the yard.

Should I try keeping more food?

What am I not thinking about?

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It sounds like you're doing pretty well. If you're in the mountains, you should have some access to food and water in a crisis where none is available. I have traps and snares for small game because I do like meat and want to save my ammunition. Dry goods like rice and beans are a good plan, which you have. You should think about meds and medical conditions if those are an issue. Whatever extra you can garner might be hard but would be important.

Unqualified said:

What about nuclear fallout over all the ground. How long can we live in it? Only in the country will life be ok for awhile because of nuclear fall out we there will live for awhile. But the cities…. Our are you only figuring on a dirty bomb that will stop the grid…. We live 125 miles from a large city. So months years, weeks. I don’t relish starving to death or radiation overdose. What is your scenario of the apocalypse?

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Certain parts of the rural Midwest, downwind of where the missile silos are, will have plenty of fallout to contend with. Being rural is not necessarily a ticket to survival if we get into a slugfest with Russia or China.

Hazelelponi said:

There's a mountain spring here, that's where my husbands family got their water when he was growing up before they got piped in water.

My husband grew up without running water or electric so everything is kinda here I think. We still have an outhouse but it's in disrepair. No one has used it in decades and decades now.

I've never drank out of the spring, but it's potable water, though it probably has to be boiled or something.

The chore would be getting to it and back carrying water... That would be something I would want to at least try to help with but in reality my getting there and back is unlikely to be possible, but in the end we are two people. We are just older and broken.

I have all kinds of 18650 batteries and a portable charger for the car for flashlights and things of this nature and kerosene/oil lamps for lights.

In any kind of power outage we are completely cut off from the world, no Internet, no phone (because we get cell phone signal through the Internet) no nothing. We just hang out until the lights come back... The mountains block signal for the cell phone where we are, as well as satellite signal. We have to drive into town if we lose electricity and call someone.

We lose electricity here quite a bit because trees and power lines don't get along during storms. We also get flooded in and can't leave sometimes during the rain season so we do have some little things, but there's only so much.

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So water with some difficulty. (I'd boil spring water because you never know what kind of animal bathed in it.) And electricity maybe not, with the loss of internet and phone to boot. (maybe a moderate sized solar array to charge a large battery to run an inverter part time for just a few essentials.)

We are confronting the near certainty that our power will go out again. Three multi-day episodes in four years does not build confidence.

Hazelelponi said:

I'm not a doomsday prepper. Heads up.

However, I feel moved now to begin getting ready for anything.

While I'm not a prepper I have food insecurity issues (personal) and really do have enough food for about a month and a half at all times.

I keep two weeks worth of regular groceries on hand as well as staple items like 20 pounds of rice, 20 pounds of beans and two large jars of peanut butter. (I can make my own bread and such and I keep a good amount of flour on hand etc as well)

I've been excellent with animal husbandry but fail miserably at gardening. If it doesn't grow wild in my area I can't get it to grow...

I gave up on gardening as a result many years ago and the last two years my husband is trying but his green thumb is about like mine, non-existent thus far.

we have propane heat and there's enough in the tank to get us through a year...

What do you suggest I might need to think about.

I'm disabled so being in good enough shape to do things like get up to the spring for water I figure is priority #1.

Priority two is probably try and do things like build a hog pen and a chicken coop for the yard.

Should I try keeping more food?

What am I not thinking about?

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If you’re prepping you might want to consider camping essentials because you might get into a situation where it isn’t safe in your area and need to relocate to a more remote location for a while. Probably one of the most important items in my opinion is a gun and plenty of ammo. You might need it for protection or you might need it for acquiring food. A tent and sleeping bags, air mattress is nice to have, coolers, a machete or hatchet for cutting firewood, a solar powered power bank for charging your phone if you don’t have electricity. Small bbq pit or you can just take the grill itself out if room in the vehicle is an issue. First aide kit, fishing poles and tackle box, pots & pans, metal plates to eat on, silverware and cooking utensils, can opener,

Gregory Thompson said:

wouldn't you need like 10 or 20 years worth of supplies to survive a a nuclear fallout? if it's really bad, even that would not be enough.

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Nuclear fallout 'mostly' degrades quickly. It's hot but then most decays in a month. You would need to be in a basement (probably better than a basement) for at least that long, shielded from some really nasty gamma radiation, and taking supplemental Iodine.

chevyontheriver said:

Nuclear fallout 'mostly' degrades quickly. It's hot but then most decays in a month. You would need to be in a basement (probably better than a basement) for at least that long, shielded from some really nasty gamma radiation, and taking supplemental Iodine.

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Yes, the shelter would need to be pretty deep.

The timeframe relates to the severity, if it's so bad that there's a "nuclear winter" then it would be a while.

BNR32FAN said:

If you’re prepping you might want to consider camping essentials because you might get into a situation where it isn’t safe in your area and need to relocate to a more remote location for a while. Probably one of the most important items in my opinion is a gun and plenty of ammo. You might need it for protection or you might need it for acquiring food. A tent and sleeping bags, air mattress is nice to have, coolers, a machete or hatchet for cutting firewood, a solar powered power bank for charging your phone if you don’t have electricity. Small bbq pit or you can just take the grill itself out if room in the vehicle is an issue. First aide kit, fishing poles and tackle box, pots & pans, metal plates to eat on, silverware and cooking utensils, can opener,

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Transportation becomes an issue if everybody decides to bug out at the same time. We had a three day power outage and traffic backed up for blocks because traffic lights were out.