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Am I just jealous or is there a legitimate grievance here somewhere?

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I've brought up this friend before, I'm often troubled by his financial situation which he overshares about.

Today out of nowhere he texts me to say he was speaking with someone who coordinates new clients for him (he basically takes care of elderly people on a part time basis who can't fully care for themselves).

He said a little bit later this person shows up at his place with an envelope for him and after she left he looked and there was over $1,100 in it. She said if the clients she has for him don't work out then she has more cash for him. We've been friends over 15 years, and I've always felt he has a very lazy work ethic. He was a full time volunteer with the local YWAM base for seven years, so in that time he had to raise his own support. He left YWAM the year we met but I feel like he never got rid of that mindset of letting other people support you. He's never had a meaningful job, and the one thing I saw him apply himself too really hasn't panned out because of workers comp stuff and lingering injuries (he went into massage therapy, got licensed at a school and everything to do sports massage but then had a shoulder injury and couldn't work for like three years due to workers comp proceedings). Even now that he can work again he doesn't really, instead he does this caretaking gig and leans on his wife to be the breadwinner for their family of four.

My issue comes with the fact that he broadcasts their financial problems to everyone. I think I posted about this a couple years ago when he asked people for "prayers" (AKA help/money) when the transmission went out on their car. And his immense circle just throws money at him. For a family that always seems to be barely getting by, they also seem to waste a lot of money like a $2-3k trip to Disneyland they just took a few months ago.

What is that? Is it jealousy on my part? I work 75 hours a week across seven days, no days off, between two jobs to earn about $94k/year which is much more than my friends family brings in but still isn't enough for my family to be comfortable. We rent a house and have one car, we're often overdrawn in our bank account, we never take vacations or even day trips unless we can do it nearly for free.

I feel like I work my behind off day in and day out just to tread water, while he has it easy and then still gets handouts on top of that.

I'd rather just not know about any of it in the first place, I don't talk about finances IRL with friends regardless of circumstances. That's just always been private in my family. So the fact that he's always sharing this stuff makes it feel like he's flaunting his good fortune.

How do I let it go?
 

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I think he's just trying to bring you down. Gently tell him to stop, or you will cut off contact with him. If he chooses to not work and waste money, that's his own fault.

God bless you
 
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I've brought up this friend before, I'm often troubled by his financial situation which he overshares about.

Today out of nowhere he texts me to say he was speaking with someone who coordinates new clients for him (he basically takes care of elderly people on a part time basis who can't fully care for themselves).
Does he do this on his own? Is he qualified or licensed to do this sort of thing?
He said a little bit later this person shows up at his place with an envelope for him and after she left he looked and there was over $1,100 in it. She said if the clients she has for him don't work out then she has more cash for him.
Huh? Who is this person? Who are they affiliated with? I’ve worked in healthcare for the elderly and never heard of such a thing. Cash in an envelope sounds pretty shady.

We've been friends over 15 years, and I've always felt he has a very lazy work ethic. He was a full time volunteer with the local YWAM base for seven years, so in that time he had to raise his own support. He left YWAM the year we met but I feel like he never got rid of that mindset of letting other people support you. He's never had a meaningful job, and the one thing I saw him apply himself too really hasn't panned out because of workers comp stuff and lingering injuries (he went into massage therapy, got licensed at a school and everything to do sports massage but then had a shoulder injury and couldn't work for like three years due to workers comp proceedings). Even now that he can work again he doesn't really, instead he does this caretaking gig and leans on his wife to be the breadwinner for their family of four.

My issue comes with the fact that he broadcasts their financial problems to everyone. I think I posted about this a couple years ago when he asked people for "prayers" (AKA help/money) when the transmission went out on their car. And his immense circle just throws money at him. For a family that always seems to be barely getting by, they also seem to waste a lot of money like a $2-3k trip to Disneyland they just took a few months ago.

What is that? Is it jealousy on my part? I work 75 hours a week across seven days, no days off, between two jobs to earn about $94k/year which is much more than my friends family brings in but still isn't enough for my family to be comfortable. We rent a house and have one car, we're often overdrawn in our bank account, we never take vacations or even day trips unless we can do it nearly for free.

I feel like I work my behind off day in and day out just to tread water, while he has it easy and then still gets handouts on top of that.

I'd rather just not know about any of it in the first place, I don't talk about finances IRL with friends regardless of circumstances. That's just always been private in my family. So the fact that he's always sharing this stuff makes it feel like he's flaunting his good fortune.

How do I let it go?
I think you both have 2 different mindsets. I don’t really think you’re jealous as much as irritated. You have a good work ethic. He seems to get along by basically soliciting donations and doing as little as possible. Taking vacations to Disney, etc. while doing that is not a good look. While I know you care for the guy I think it’s more of a situation of simply growing apart. It happens and it does not mean you do not still care for the guy but it may be time to start actively separating a bit more. Especially when you are in the midst of working so hard yourself in this stage of your life. Doesn’t he know that? If so, don’t you think he is being a little insensitive to you? Honestly, he seems pretty self-absorbed. Forgive him, pray to move past it. Pray for him and God’s guidance as to how to move past it as well as the relationship if necessary. You are in a different phase of life where he seems like he is stunted and not open to growth.
 
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Money is often a concern for people, whether they have too little of it or too much for their own good. There never seems to be enough. Money is obviously a possible - or likely - vulnerability to the souls of Christians. It is rare, very rare, to find anyone who is honestly free of concerns about money. The longer I live, the more I realize the accuracy of a "proverb" of unknown origin, "Money doth make fools of us all."

Judas was a lover of money.
Jn 12:4 But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (he who was to betray him), said,
Jn 12:5 "Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?"
Jn 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor but because he was a thief, and as he had the money box he used to take what was put into it.

God has given some, much money; to others, very little; but to all, enough to find salvation and eternal happiness.

1Ti 6:6 There is great gain in godliness with contentment;
1Ti 6:7 for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world;
1Ti 6:8 but if we have food and clothing, with these we shall be content.
1Ti 6:9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and hurtful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced their hearts with many pangs.

Heb 13:5 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have; for he has said, "I will never fail you nor forsake you."
There is such a treasure of wisdom in the Words of God.
 
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I've brought up this friend before, I'm often troubled by his financial situation which he overshares about.

Today out of nowhere he texts me to say he was speaking with someone who coordinates new clients for him (he basically takes care of elderly people on a part time basis who can't fully care for themselves).

He said a little bit later this person shows up at his place with an envelope for him and after she left he looked and there was over $1,100 in it. She said if the clients she has for him don't work out then she has more cash for him. We've been friends over 15 years, and I've always felt he has a very lazy work ethic. He was a full time volunteer with the local YWAM base for seven years, so in that time he had to raise his own support. He left YWAM the year we met but I feel like he never got rid of that mindset of letting other people support you. He's never had a meaningful job, and the one thing I saw him apply himself too really hasn't panned out because of workers comp stuff and lingering injuries (he went into massage therapy, got licensed at a school and everything to do sports massage but then had a shoulder injury and couldn't work for like three years due to workers comp proceedings). Even now that he can work again he doesn't really, instead he does this caretaking gig and leans on his wife to be the breadwinner for their family of four.

My issue comes with the fact that he broadcasts their financial problems to everyone. I think I posted about this a couple years ago when he asked people for "prayers" (AKA help/money) when the transmission went out on their car. And his immense circle just throws money at him. For a family that always seems to be barely getting by, they also seem to waste a lot of money like a $2-3k trip to Disneyland they just took a few months ago.

What is that? Is it jealousy on my part? I work 75 hours a week across seven days, no days off, between two jobs to earn about $94k/year which is much more than my friends family brings in but still isn't enough for my family to be comfortable. We rent a house and have one car, we're often overdrawn in our bank account, we never take vacations or even day trips unless we can do it nearly for free.

I feel like I work my behind off day in and day out just to tread water, while he has it easy and then still gets handouts on top of that.

I'd rather just not know about any of it in the first place, I don't talk about finances IRL with friends regardless of circumstances. That's just always been private in my family. So the fact that he's always sharing this stuff makes it feel like he's flaunting his good fortune.

How do I let it go?
I am sure your friend feels blessed in his most terrified moments and I do not understand Disney trips... he is the one taking them?


This economy is rough. My brother is on disability and he fell back on his head and got a concussion and all sorts of issues with that. He can barely afford food. His wife cleans and they lost their home because finances. The roof fell in and they had to find a Christian group who helps do it free.
The house was eventually condemned for foundational issues and now he has to pay $1200 in rent and disability is $900+

I have been doing delivery for GrubHub, DoorDash and sometimes Uber but for my car and cars I borrow [my sons] keep on breaking down.
I do complain and it might be because I do not want to vent to my close friends and family. I get so panicked and emotional and need the power of pray warriors.
My car broke down 5 times in 2 months. So I fully understand ... I used to work 80 hours a week trying to get my non profit charity going and working with elderly but severely hurt my back doing that.
I lost the store. In fact I am still paying on the shelving and such I had to leave behind.

I pray for you to get a raise and may you be blessed for all you do. :twohearts:
 
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Idk man but I'm very confident that you need a lifestyle change if $94k/yr doesn't cut it. I would definitely take a hard look at where all the money is going and what the priorities should be before worrying about anything else. I also have 4 kids so I'm not just talking out my butt. I grew up very poor though so maybe I'm used to less and know how to be comfortable with it.
 
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Idk man but I'm very confident that you need a lifestyle change if $94k/yr doesn't cut it. I would definitely take a hard look at where all the money is going and what the priorities should be before worrying about anything else. I also have 4 kids so I'm not just talking out my butt. I grew up very poor though so maybe I'm used to less and know how to be comfortable with it.
He is in CA. Very expensive!
 
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Idk man but I'm very confident that you need a lifestyle change if $94k/yr doesn't cut it. I would definitely take a hard look at where all the money is going and what the priorities should be before worrying about anything else. I also have 4 kids so I'm not just talking out my butt. I grew up very poor though so maybe I'm used to less and know how to be comfortable with it.
Yeah part of it is I live in CA, albeit one of the cheaper areas. And relocating isn’t an option cause my family is here.

The problem is we have at least $1,500/month in debt payments that we’re grinding through. Student loans, credit cards, a personal loan, and a car loan among some smaller things.
 
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Yeah part of it is I live in CA, albeit one of the cheaper areas. And relocating isn’t an option cause my family is here.

The problem is we have at least $1,500/month in debt payments that we’re grinding through. Student loans, credit cards, a personal loan, and a car loan among some smaller things.
Keeping you in daily prayer.
 
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