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CDC shifts pandemic goals away from reaching herd immunity
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Godless and without morals
I would expect India to be one of the worst countries in the world. I would expect their death count to be way under what it actually is.
Current spread/infection rate is to be seen in a different light to what it was in the days prior to the vaccine. Many countries are opening up, either due to having good vaccine rates or due to losing the battle against Delta or both.
So as countries open up you would expect the infection rates to go up. And of course Delta is exponentially more contagious than prior variants, so infection rates are expected to go up.
However, due to the vaccine rates we would expect hospitalisations and deaths to decrease per infected person. For countries that protected themselves before vaccines were around and then did a great job at getting a highly vaccinated population and then opened up, we would expect the infection rates to go up, hospitalisations and death rates to go up, but overall, we would expect much less death, much less hospitalisations that what would have occurred if an unvaccinated population had the disease running rampant.
Trying to compare Sweden's current rate of infection, hospitalisations and death now to Singapore's doesn't tell the story that you want it to. It doesn't show that Sweden's approach was good. Sweden's approach was a disaster. They have received a high immunity but it has come at the cost of many thousands of lives. Singapore has received a high immunity too, which didn't come at the cost of those lives. Even if Singapore will have more breakthrough infections than Sweden will have reinfections, Singapore will not experience an overall death and overall hospitalisation per capita as what Sweden has already experienced.
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Let's update these charts, shall we?
Using your source, updated with 2021 - 2023 data.
Sweden:
2011 - 89,938
2012 - 91,938
2013 - 90,402
2014 - 88,976
2015 - 90,907
2016 - 90,982
2017 - 91,972
2018 - 92,185
2019 - 88,766
2020 - 98,124
2021 - 91,958
2022 - 94,737
2023 - 94,385
Sweden average 2011-2019: 90,674
Sweden average 2020-2023: 94,801
Increase during pandemic era: 4.55%
Denmark:
2011 - 52,516
2012 - 52,325
2013 - 52,471
2014 - 51,340
2015 - 52,555
2016 - 52,824
2017 - 53,261
2018 - 55,232
2019 - 53,958
2020 - 54,645
2021 - 57,152
2022 - 59,145
2023 - 58,384
Denmark average 2011-2019: 52,842
Denmark average 2020-2023: 57,331
Increase during pandemic era: 8.29%
I reiterate:
Norway had a similar trend to Denmark, although Statista only had data through 2022. 2021 was the worst since 2010, and 2022 was way worse than 2021. Denmark was 4.57% higher deaths than their previous average (and I'd wager it'd be higher than that if 2023 data was available).
Norway: number of deaths 2022 | Statista
Between 2012 and 2021, the number of deaths in Norway was quite stable.
www.statista.com
Finland was the worst of the bunch, with an 11.74% increase of mortality in the pandemic relative to pre-pandemic baseline.
Finland: number of deaths 2023 | Statista
The number of deaths in Finland increased in the period from 2013 to 2023.
www.statista.com
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