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Mothers Day vs Fathers Day

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During Mother’s Day everyone praises both married and single mothers. Yet during Father’s Day last weekend women across social media wanted the day to include them saying they do the job of both. Why can’t fathers get any sort of praise without women wanting to be the main character of both days?
 

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During Mother’s Day everyone praises both married and single mothers. Yet during Father’s Day last weekend women across social media wanted the day to include them saying they do the job of both. Why can’t fathers get any sort of praise without women wanting to be the main character of both days?
That is the issue with 3rd wave feminism. Now, women's voting rights was great back in the 1920s during the first wave, but now women want to be elevated far above men, instead of at an equal standing with men in the 2020s.
 
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People tend to go overboard when going from oppressed to equal rights. It’s never equal rights. You give a mouse a cookie and they’ll ask for milk, cake, pie, etc. Suddenly the oppressed become the oppressors. Women aren’t in the position of oppressed anymore… they like to think that and play victim to get their way because a lot of them are manipulative… women are turning into the oppressors, and the worst part of it all? Men in these generations are letting them. They’re overcompensating for the problems of the past. No one is trying to balance things out.
 
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People tend to go overboard when going from oppressed to equal rights. It’s never equal rights. You give a mouse a cookie and they’ll ask for milk, cake, pie, etc. Suddenly the oppressed become the oppressors. Women aren’t in the position of oppressed anymore… they like to think that and play victim to get their way because a lot of them are manipulative… women are turning into the oppressors, and the worst part of it all? Men in these generations are letting them. They’re overcompensating for the problems of the past. No one is trying to balance things out.
Agreed 100%. The pendulum swings to the complete other direction. People go overboard in a lot of things sadly, because we live in a sinful world.
 
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During Mother’s Day everyone praises both married and single mothers. Yet during Father’s Day last weekend women across social media wanted the day to include them saying they do the job of both. Why can’t fathers get any sort of praise without women wanting to be the main character of both days?
I don't think it's a big deal.
 
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That is the issue with 3rd wave feminism. Now, women's voting rights was great back in the 1920s during the first wave, but now women want to be elevated far above men, instead of at an equal standing with men in the 2020s.
We're dealing with a different ideology. We've gone from Liberal Feminism (1st and 2nd wave) to Radical Feminism (3rd wave). Radical Feminism is capitalized because it's a specific ideology that's based on Critical Theory (an ivory tower version of Marxism). Critical Theory identifies an eternal oppressor and the victim of oppression. There can be no compromise, treaty, or reconciliation with the eternal oppressor, because oppression is the essential character of the oppressor. Thus, the oppressor must be fought by any means available until destroyed or subdued to social irrelevance. There can be no equality with the oppressor, because equality with the oppressor means the oppressor is winning.

Moreover, everything the oppressor does as well as the oppressor's basic culture is for the sake of enabling his oppression. Thus, the oppressor's history, science, philosophy, art, et cetera, must all be discarded and replaced with the culture of the victim.

You can go back and look at the propaganda of the Chinese Communist Party during the Cultural Revolution and replace "imperialist" with "men"...that's how Radical Feminism works. And if you find it hard to believe that Radical Feminism is the same ideology, read the seminal documents of Radical Feminism such as The Feminine Mystique. The basis in Critical Theory is not a secret, they say so themselves, and the basis of Critical Theory in Marxism is also not a secret...they say so themselves.
 
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We're dealing with a different ideology. We've gone from Liberal Feminism (1st and 2nd wave) to Radical Feminism (3rd wave). Radical Feminism is capitalized because it's a specific ideology that's based on Critical Theory (an ivory tower version of Marxism). Critical Theory identifies an eternal oppressor and the victim of oppression. There can be no compromise, treaty, or reconciliation with the eternal oppressor, because oppression is the essential character of the oppressor. Thus, the oppressor must be fought by any means available until destroyed or subdued to social irrelevance. There can be no equality with the oppressor, because equality with the oppressor means the oppressor is winning.

Moreover, everything the oppressor does as well as the oppressor's basic culture is for the sake of enabling his oppression. Thus, the oppressor's history, science, philosophy, art, et cetera, must all be discarded and replaced with the culture of the victim.

You can go back and look at the propaganda of the Chinese Communist Party during the Cultural Revolution and replace "imperialist" with "men"...that's how Radical Feminism works. And if you find it hard to believe that Radical Feminism is the same ideology, read the seminal documents of Radical Feminism such as The Feminine Mystique. The basis in Critical Theory is not a secret, they say so themselves, and the basis of Critical Theory in Marxism is also not a secret...they say so themselves.
True. You explained this perfectly. First and second waves were okay, but the third wave has shifted to a new ideological framework. Radical feminism is a huge step backwards for society, and takes everything to the extreme, just as communist dictators did back in the 1950s up to the modern day (cough cough, Kim Jung Un trying to rewrite history).
 
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During Mother’s Day everyone praises both married and single mothers. Yet during Father’s Day last weekend women across social media wanted the day to include them saying they do the job of both. Why can’t fathers get any sort of praise without women wanting to be the main character of both days?
Feminism sold lies to women. Satan is the father of lies. Satan fathered feminism.
 
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During Mother’s Day everyone praises both married and single mothers. Yet during Father’s Day last weekend women across social media wanted the day to include them saying they do the job of both. Why can’t fathers get any sort of praise without women wanting to be the main character of both days?
Without seeing any examples of these women’s comments I can’t really comment on their intent. Perhaps they are trying to take the spotlight on both holidays. I think most father’s managed to be celebrated without noticing some social media comments though. I don’t think it’s a real issue to be concerned about.
 
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How many women online are we talking about? It is easy to find a few people online saying almost anything, so unless it is a critical mass of people it doesn’t mean much of anything…
 
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My guess would be that it's more than some parents don't want their kids to feel left out or ignored if their fathers aren't around on fathers' day. But it's not really a phenomenon I've seen much anyway. One could argue that both days are really quite artificial and there's little need to pay much heed to either...
 
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My guess would be that it's more than some parents don't want their kids to feel left out or ignored if their fathers aren't around on fathers' day. But it's not really a phenomenon I've seen much anyway. One could argue that both days are really quite artificial and there's little need to pay much heed to either...
I don't know about Oz, but Mother's day is a big deal in the US. Father's Day...eh. So, it's kind of annoying when single mothers try to take Father's Day as well.
 
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I don't know about Oz, but Mother's day is a big deal in the US. Father's Day...eh.
Here I'd say they get about equal hype. Lots of marketing trying to sell stuff, usually some activities at school (like making a card, or having a stall to buy a gift, that sort of thing). Many families would have some sort of extended family gathering. But we do fathers' day later, in September.
 
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I don't know about Oz, but Mother's day is a big deal in the US. Father's Day...eh. So, it's kind of annoying when single mothers try to take Father's Day as well.
They had exactly zero impact on my Father’s Day. They didn’t “take” anything.
 
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Your problem isn't women. It's women on social media who shared opinions you don't agree with. Why do you need to hear strangers praising men? They're not talking to you so what are you getting out it?

If you want an echo chamber they're plentiful. There's people you can follow who focus on men who aren't part of the manosphere. If you're not seeing the things you want on social media it's largely your fault. Follow the people who address the subjects that matter to you and the algorithm will adjust.

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That is the issue with 3rd wave feminism. Now, women's voting rights was great back in the 1920s during the first wave, but now women want to be elevated far above men, instead of at an equal standing with men in the 2020s.
Wow. But men who worry about things like that deserve it.
 
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Feminism sold lies to women. Satan is the father of lies. Satan fathered feminism.
By that logic…

Every human had told lies. Satan is the father of lies. Satan fathered every human.

The SBC sold lies about sexual predators in their denomination. Satan is the father of lies. Satan fathered the SBC.

Same for the Catholic church.

We could go on for hours this way.

Do you really think satan fathered almost everything? You have a very large satan in your theology.

I don’t buy it.
 
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