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Hello folks. What if the Bible had a parental sticker, or guide on it, as DVDs do, or music albums? What would it say? I like the Bible, even though some of the themes might be dark, as the Bible is a great way for us to get to know the teachings of God.

Info about movie ratings: Ratings Guide

Here is what the sticker or label might say for the Bible. :)

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"Based on the content descriptions in the search results, a book containing depictions of murders, slavery, rape, incest, genocide, and post-apocalyptic themes would likely receive an R or NC-17 rating due to its disturbing and mature subject matter."

AI response, I think its quite accurate. At least the Old Testament should not be given to children. There are children Bibles, which may be a better way to get them familiar with the stories.
So, you asked an AI about if a book containing the descriptions in the parent's guide would be considered to be rated R? I do agree on that, and am glad that there are children's Bibles.

I had this, or something along the lines of this Bible as a kid in the mid-2000s, where pages had built-in doors to see more illustrations while reading the Bible. It only had a few books of the Old and New Testaments.

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Hello folks. What if the Bible had a parental sticker, or guide on it, as DVDs do, or music albums? What would it say? I like the Bible, even though some of the themes might be dark, as the Bible is a way for us to get to know the teachings of God?

Info about movie ratings: Ratings Guide

Here is what the sticker or label might say for the Bible. :)

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I wouldn't consider the bible to be suitable for all ages. I would probably rate it at best PG-13. But that is how the bible has been treated all along anyways. We have "children's bibles" that censor a lot of the information to make it suitable for younger people.
 
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I wouldn't consider the bible to be suitable for all ages. I would probably rate it at best PG-13. But that is how the bible has been treated all along anyways. We have "children's bibles" that censor a lot of the information to make it suitable for younger people.
Agreed. I would rate it at PG-13 as well, maybe giving a little leeway, 12 and up, for mature preteens. Children's Bibles are perfect to introduce youngsters to the Bible, without covering heavy topics.
 
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Hello folks. What if the Bible had a parental sticker, or guide on it, as DVDs do, or music albums? What would it say? I like the Bible, even though some of the themes might be dark, as the Bible is a great way for us to get to know the teachings of God.

Info about movie ratings: Ratings Guide

Here is what the sticker or label might say for the Bible. :)

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I wouldn't go for the PG-13. As I understand it... back in the olden days... Scripture was used as a primer for people of all ages as they learned to read. So, I think that children can it just fine, especially with a guardian explaining.

I would also add to your Parental Guide points:
-readership encouraged.
 
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I wouldn't go for the PG-13. As I understand it... back in the olden days... Scripture was used as a primer for people of all ages as they learned to read. So, I think that children can it just fine, especially with a guardian explaining.

I would also add to your Parental Guide points:
-readership encouraged.
Agreed. I might add this as well, but this Parental Guide is meant for how a movie theater or rating system would present the Bible. So, I would go for ages 9 at a minimum with a parent or guardian explaining. If books were somehow required to have labels on them, 9 or 12 could be a minimum age, but allowances can be made for younger kids. For instance, a lot of kids watch R rated movies before the age of 17-18. I did not watch any R rated films until my late teens or early 20s, except for one R rated movie on the airplane in 2013 (age 13): "A Boy Called H". That movie was a war drama that showed how a Christian boy in Japan had to deal with the precursors and aftermath of WW2. The movie got the R rating due to the heavy topic of war, and showing the aftermath of bombings, but not for anything sensual.

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Yea, some of it really isn't appropriate for the little ones.
Mommy?
What does it mean "she lusted for her paramours, Whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys, And whose issue is like the issue of horses..." ?
 
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Yea, some of it really isn't appropriate for the little ones.
Mommy?
What does it mean "she lusted for her paramours, Whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys, And whose issue is like the issue of horses..." ?
Agreed. That stuff is a little 15 to 18+ right there, depending on one's region of the world.
 
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R for sure. The Bible doesn’t sugar coat mankind is in desperate need of a savior from their sins.

So then non-believers are like ‘if children can have that rated R, why can’t they have other things rated R?’
Honestly, as I grow older, I’m not sure why we try to pretend life is all rainbows & unicorns to children. It’s part of the problem why we’re at where we’re at b/c it raises spoiled brats

Yea, some of it really isn't appropriate for the little ones.
Mommy?
What does it mean "she lusted for her paramours, Whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys, And whose issue is like the issue of horses..." ?
They have to learn it someday. You can't hide it forever. Best learning it from their momma or daddy. If they can read that, they're smarter than what you're giving them credit for.

& some kids don't even ask. I never asked. I would read the Bible, those parts I didn't understand, but I moved on to the next verse
 
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We made the mistake of allowing our children free access to the bible, especially after our church gave them bibles in 4th grade. That was how we were raised so we didn’t think much of it.

One of our kids was a prolific reader, requiring at least one trip to the local library each week. We knew some of what she read in the bible (we talked about it) but didn’t think she even had time to read a lot more of it. Only years later we learned that before the age of 10 she had read Genesis, Exodus, Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Daniel and the Revelation of John. As a result she had literal nightmares about the bible. I think this had a profoundly negative impact on her. At best this was negligence, at worst spiritual abuse.

Even adults have a hard time with the divinely-ordered genocide and other violence, treatment of women as property and virgin girls as spoils of war to be kidnapped after murdering all other people and animals in the city, etc.

On a lighter note, the bible is what sent her to the dictionary to understand the meaning of ‘wh0re’, ‘prostitute’, ‘lust’, etc. Also while in elementary school.

For sure PG-13 for most of it. And just telling kids not to read certain books is not a safeguard. She recalls a Sunday school teacher telling her that Revelation is hard to understand and really only for grown-ups, which of course made her want to read it.

Don’t make the same mistakes we did.
 
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We made the mistake of allowing our children free access to the bible, especially after our church gave them bibles in 4th grade. That was how we were raised so we didn’t think much of it.

One of our kids was a prolific reader, requiring at least one trip to the local library each week. We knew some of what she read in the bible (we talked about it) but didn’t think she even had time to read a lot more of it. Only years later we learned that before the age of 10 she had read Genesis, Exodus, Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Daniel and the Revelation of John. As a result she had literal nightmares about the bible. I think this had a profoundly negative impact on her. At best this was negligence, at worst spiritual abuse.

Even adults have a hard time with the divinely-ordered genocide and other violence, treatment of women as property and virgin girls as spoils of war to be kidnapped after murdering all other people and animals in the city, etc.

On a lighter note, the bible is what sent her to the dictionary to understand the meaning of ‘wh0re’, ‘prostitute’, ‘lust’, etc. Also while in elementary school.

For sure PG-13 for most of it. And just telling kids not to read certain books is not a safeguard. She recalls a Sunday school teacher telling her that Revelation is hard to understand and really only for grown-ups, which of course made her want to read it.

Don’t make the same mistakes we did.
Well, I am proud that she read the Bible, but she should have stayed away from the prophet stuff. The Bible can get real dark, real fast. She could have read the Gospels though, and be fine, though, the crucifixion is a little dark. Is your kid all better? Whew, Daniel is complicated, so I am surprised that your daughter read that one. I still have not read Daniel.
 
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What if the Bible had a parental sticker, or guide on it, as DVDs do, or music albums? What would it say?
This question is usually badly motivated (not saying you are, only pointing out that it's normally a "gotcha" question). It's used as a setup to an argument against censoring obscenity: "we rate media based on things that occur anywhere within it, and we restrict kids' consumption of this media based on its rating, so we should focus on the lurid details as much as possible and give it a terrible rating, and therefore we should restrict kids from reading the Bible. But you don't want that, you want kids to read the Bible. So to be consistent, you have to allow this other book which contains themes of sexual immorality and graphic descriptions of said immorality to be placed in the kids' section."

The people who make this argument aren't looking for rational discussion. They don't want to hear that there's an obvious difference between the two; they know there is, they just want to promote degeneracy. So for them I don't even entertain the question.

For the sake of discussion, though, I think the most fair way to break it down is book-by-book. For those who want to harp on Ezekiel 23:20, Ezekiel can be R. Most other books would be PG or G.
 
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This question is usually badly motivated (not saying you are, only pointing out that it's normally a "gotcha" question). It's used as a setup to an argument against censoring obscenity: "we rate media based on things that occur anywhere within it, and we restrict kids' consumption of this media based on its rating, so we should focus on the lurid details as much as possible and give it a terrible rating, and therefore we should restrict kids from reading the Bible. But you don't want that, you want kids to read the Bible. So to be consistent, you have to allow this other book which contains themes of sexual immorality and graphic descriptions of said immorality to be placed in the kids' section."

The people who make this argument aren't looking for rational discussion. They don't want to hear that there's an obvious difference between the two; they know there is, they just want to promote degeneracy. So for them I don't even entertain the question.

For the sake of discussion, though, I think the most fair way to break it down is book-by-book. For those who want to harp on Ezekiel 23:20, Ezekiel can be R. Most other books would be PG or G.
This was just an innocent question. We should censor obscenity.
 
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For the sake of discussion, though, I think the most fair way to break it down is book-by-book. For those who want to harp on Ezekiel 23:20, Ezekiel can be R. Most other books would be PG or G.
I agree that it would make more sense to go book-by-book. For me the violence is the largest concern, especially the violence ordered by God and sometimes carried out by God. That is the stuff that I would call PG-13 and perhaps R in places. Not only is it frightening, but it paints a very violent and retributive picture of God. Even adults who have been in the faith for years struggle with those passages, and sometimes the problem of divine violence leads to them leaving the faith altogether.

If 'violent and retributive' is the dominant way a child thinks of God, then their faith is in jeopardy, and they will probably be scared a lot of the time.
 
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