Full FDA approval will cause acceptance

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Good. It sounds like she mentally ill. And shouldn't be in the medical field.

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As someone who lives in the area where she "practices", she's been appealing to quackery long before covid.

She's one of the people who's been speaking out against "mainstream medicine", and promoting quack cures for all kinds of stuff for decades (while simultaneously user her MD for additional "credibility")...which I always thought was an odd approach.

"XYZs are Crooks, take it from me, I'm an XYZ" always seemed like an odd flex to me lol.


If she should get punished for anything, it shouldn't be for her stances on the covid vaccines (it's likely that she didn't convince that many people not to take it who weren't already anti-vaxx in the first place...it's the other way around, she was simply the person who showed up in the google search for "MD cautions against covid vaccines" when anti-vaxxers were looking to pad their arguments), she should be punished for the way she exploits the grief and fear of cancer patients by giving them false hope and talking them out of more effective treatments.

I've shared this on CF before, but when my dad was battling cancer, Tenpenny is the one who talked him out of the real treatments that could've saved his life back when he was stage 2, and instead, sold him a bunch of nonsense supplements and told him to stay away from the actual treatments. And by the time he came to his senses, it was too late and he was stage 4.

RestoreTheJoy said:

So her license was restored, upon review. OK.

I don't know anything about being magnetized, but after the disinformation we have been fed for years, not much would surprise me.

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Tenpenny is a raging anti-vax conspiracy peddler, and has been for decades. She has been one of the most prominent spreaders of disinformation regarding vaccines (and health information in general) since the start of the millennium.

Among her greatest hits:

Bird flu is caused by vaccines, and also that flu vaccinations kill more people than the flu itself.
There was no COVID-19 virus. Then, when it was officially type classified, that it was a "bioweapon".
Antibodies produced by mRNA COVID-19 vaccines "are going to be deadly" and will "wreak havoc on the lungs" within four to 14 months of vaccinations.
COVID-19 vaccines "were designed to kill human fertility."
By the end of 2022, "every fully vaccinated person over the age of 30 may have the equivalent of full-blown vaccine-induced immune suppressed AIDS"
"Much more than 50 million people in America alone" will die from COVID-19 vaccines, and this is "starting to happen now" [now being early 2023].
By the end of 2023, everyone will know "a minimum of five, probably 10" people who have died from the COVID-19 vaccine.

Gene2memE said:

Tenpenny is a raging anti-vax conspiracy peddler, and has been for decades. She has been one of the most prominent spreaders of disinformation regarding vaccines (and health information in general) since the start of the millennium.

Among her greatest hits:

Bird flu is caused by vaccines, and also that flu vaccinations kill more people than the flu itself.
There was no COVID-19 virus. Then, when it was officially type classified, that it was a "bioweapon".
Antibodies produced by mRNA COVID-19 vaccines "are going to be deadly" and will "wreak havoc on the lungs" within four to 14 months of vaccinations.
COVID-19 vaccines "were designed to kill human fertility."
By the end of 2022, "every fully vaccinated person over the age of 30 may have the equivalent of full-blown vaccine-induced immune suppressed AIDS"
"Much more than 50 million people in America alone" will die from COVID-19 vaccines, and this is "starting to happen now" [now being early 2023].
By the end of 2023, everyone will know "a minimum of five, probably 10" people who have died from the COVID-19 vaccine.

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Your opinions about the doctor (and some of her opinions you list, if accurate) are noted, but the reality is that she retains her license, so a medical board accepts her.

She may have been wrong about the time and the extent, but there have definitely been some bad side effects and many people sickened.

NY Times wrote an article about this. People know darn well if they were fine one day and then their health declined after taking a vaccine (or any drug, actually).

"Within minutes of getting the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine, Michelle Zimmerman felt pain racing from her left arm up to her ear and down to her fingertips. Within days, she was unbearably sensitive to light and struggled to remember simple facts.

She was 37, with a Ph.D. in neuroscience, and until then could ride her bicycle 20 miles, teach a dance class and give a lecture on artificial intelligence, all in the same day. Now, more than three years later, she lives with her parents. Eventually diagnosed with brain damage, she cannot work, drive or even stand for long periods of time.

“When I let myself think about the devastation of what this has done to my life, and how much I’ve lost, sometimes it feels even too hard to comprehend,” said Dr. Zimmerman, who believes her injury is due to a contaminated vaccine batch.

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Dr. Zimmerman’s account is among the more harrowing, but thousands of Americans believe they suffered serious side effects following Covid vaccination. As of April, just over 13,000 vaccine-injury compensation claims have been filed with the federal government — but to little avail. Only 19 percent have been reviewed. Only 47 of those were deemed eligible for compensation, and only 12 have been paid out, at an average of about $3,600.

Some scientists fear that patients with real injuries are being denied help and believe that more needs to be done to clarify the possible risks.

Also:

New study: Covid-19: Two rare vaccine side effects detected in large global study

The largest vaccine safety study to date has identified two new, but very rare, side effects associated with covid-19 vaccines—transverse myelitis and acute disseminated encephalomyelitis.

The Global Vaccine Data Network cohort study included 99 million vaccinated people from 10 sites across eight countries. Researchers compared the observed with expected rate for 13 neurological, blood, and heart related medical conditions.

The study, published in Vaccine, confirmed previously identified rare safety signals for myocarditis and pericarditis after a mRNA vaccine (Pfizer and Moderna) and Guillain-Barré syndrome and cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) after viral vector vaccines (AstraZeneca).1

RestoreTheJoy said:

She may have been wrong about the time and the extent,

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She was totally wrong.

If I predicted that 50 million people would die from something within a set time period, and it turns out that possibly 90 people died (over a substantially longer period) that's a forecast that is out by a full five orders of magnitude.

(As an aside, there's evidence that the mortality rate of the portion of the population have COVID-19 vaccinations is substantially lower overall for non COVID-19 causes than the portion of the population that is unvaccinated. Age adjusted mortality rates of vaccinated groups was roughly 0.6 to 0.9 per 100 person years. Meanwhile, unvaccinated individuals had a mortality rate of 1.7 to 2.1 per 100 person years.

Study here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22015614?dgcid=raven_sd_aip_email)

RestoreTheJoy said:

but there have definitely been some bad side effects and many people sickened.

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Vaccines have side effects - nothing new there. The earliest smallpox vaccines had side effects. The flu vaccine has side effects, even some fatalities.

But, the overall positive impact of vaccines VASTLY outweighs the side effects. Yes, each individual death is a tragedy. Not just for them, but for family and friends.

But, the alternative - not vaccinating - would lead to a catastrophe. If I'm a surgeon, cutting the flesh is a necessary harm to cure the body. It's an unfortunate reality that some individuals are going to be harmed from vaccines. Some will even die from vaccine complications.

But, more individuals are going to be harmed and more individuals are going to die if no-one is vaccinated, or vaccination rates are reduced.

This lady said the vaccine would make me magnetic, 5G, and implant me with a chip that tracked my movements. As far as I can tell, I’m the same level of magnetic I was before, my cell reception hasn’t gotten any better, and I still get lost all the time.

On top of all that, the FBI agent who spies on me through Alexa didn’t even send me a Christmas card.

America just isn’t what it used to be.

Gene2memE said:

She was totally wrong.

If I predicted that 50 million people would die from something within a set time period, and it turns out that possibly 90 people died (over a substantially longer period) that's a forecast that is out by a full five orders of magnitude.

(As an aside, there's evidence that the mortality rate of the portion of the population have COVID-19 vaccinations is substantially lower overall for non COVID-19 causes than the portion of the population that is unvaccinated. Age adjusted mortality rates of vaccinated groups was roughly 0.6 to 0.9 per 100 person years. Meanwhile, unvaccinated individuals had a mortality rate of 1.7 to 2.1 per 100 person years.

Study here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22015614?dgcid=raven_sd_aip_email)



Vaccines have side effects - nothing new there. The earliest smallpox vaccines had side effects. The flu vaccine has side effects, even some fatalities.

But, the overall positive impact of vaccines VASTLY outweighs the side effects. Yes, each individual death is a tragedy. Not just for them, but for family and friends.

But, the alternative - not vaccinating - would lead to a catastrophe. If I'm a surgeon, cutting the flesh is a necessary harm to cure the body. It's an unfortunate reality that some individuals are going to be harmed from vaccines. Some will even die from vaccine complications.

But, more individuals are going to be harmed and more individuals are going to die if no-one is vaccinated, or vaccination rates are reduced.

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What if they die over a longer period?

We are going to have to wait a few more years to see the actual outcome, even if many people did not drop dead on the spot, though some did.

Unfortunately individual BODIES do not respond to "overall positive impact". This is why there must never be mandates. The ones who did die either at the time or shortly after, or became disabled like the scientist in the article must always be free without any coercion whatsoever to take or not take any drug.

COVID Vaccines = a world full of Magnetic superheroes? I've got to get another booster....

Trogdor the Burninator said:

COVID Vaccines = a world full of Magnetic superheroes? I've got to get another booster....

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Autism causes vaccines!

Desk trauma said:

Autism causes vaccines!

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O, new brave globe!

Trogdor the Burninator said:

COVID Vaccines = a world full of Magnetic superheroes? I've got to get another booster....

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Don’t bother. It didn’t make me magnetic, it just kept me from catching COVID until 2024. I don’t get vaccines to prevent deadly illnesses, just to give me super powers I can bust out at dinner parties.

Such a waste.