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I want to grow closer to God and get my life in order

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Hi everyone. I am a young male and I am looking for advice on how to grow closer to God and to get my life in order.
Well, we trust God to do what He wants with us.

And I keep finding He does better than what I think and try.

Two things I appreciate are being quiet and seeing what He does in me with me. And sharing with people who know how to love, including not arguing or complaining.

Being able to love is more important than getting married and having a career. Of course, you can find out how to love and this makes marrage and a career work well.

And God's word gives us good things about how to be and share with God and how to relate.

And when things get horrible inside of me . . . I know I can't beat it with my own ability and methods, but I offer myself to God, by being quiet and waiting for Him to get me into peace. And then trust Him to guide my attention and what I do.

And what really works is being with my brothers and sisters in Jesus.
 
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And I keep finding He does better than what I think and try.
Above and beyond all we would ever think or ask. Even if we have to put a bit of effort into prayer every now and then.

Ephesians 3:20 "Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,"
 
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And when things get horrible inside of me . . . I know I can't beat it with my own ability and methods, but I offer myself to God, by being quiet and waiting for Him to get me into peace. And then trust Him to guide my attention and what I do.
Interesting how we say we are waiting on God when He does not change. He is actually waiting on us. We are changed into the Glory of His image.

2 Corinthians 3:18

 
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Everyone has gifts, talents and abilities. What do you like to do? You can work for someone and let them train you. Then you can start your own business with what you learn and hire people to work for you. I know I have work that needs done around my house and it is difficult to find people willing to work. It is not unusual to pay people $100 dollar an hour to do things like fix the furnace or the plumbing.
There is nothing I like to do since losing my will to live...
 
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I disagree with the approach of the other messages. Ordering people around isn't the answer when someone is hurting.

I wish I knew how to transplant my "I deserve to live" voice into other people's heads. It's like

Christ died for me, I deserve to live
Live for Him, this I do
Dying is letting Him down
You don't deserve to kill me
You can't kill us, we'll always be back
The Body of Christ will take you out


Basically, Christ's death on the cross is a unilateral declaration that every human being has value. What that value is can be hard to see sometimes, but it is there, and sometimes we have to take on faith that it exists in order to start searching.

Why have you been studying computer science? Were you looking for money? Did someone put you up to it? Why have you been causing yourself such misery?

If I gifted you an all-expenses-paid education to the university of your choice, where would you go to school and what would you study? I will not judge you for the answer to this question.
I don't know. I wanted to go into another branch of engineering at first through the compSci program, but I failed in doing so. Now I don't know what I'd like to do, much less what education I'd like to pursue. The problem comes to down to my absent will to live. If I was perfectly healthy, I'd probably say MIT or Harvard, but now that I'm not, I would not be able to complete a degree at those universities.
 
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There is nothing I like to do since losing my will to live...
Sounds like you need God to comfort you. Sometimes we do not have a choice we just have to live this life out as best as we can.
 
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Sounds like you need God to comfort you. Sometimes we do not have a choice we just have to live this life out as best as we can.
Yeah I do need God, but I feel like he has denied me his presence.
 
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Yeah I do need God, but I feel like he has denied me his presence.
God is Holy and if we want to draw close to God then we need to be Holy, Sanctified and set apart.
Jesus tells us to pray: "Thy Kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." Matthew 6 10.
 
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God is Holy and if we want to draw close to God then we need to be Holy, Sanctified and set apart.
Jesus tells us to pray: "Thy Kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." Matthew 6 10.
I don't know how to get holy by my own efforts... I attend the Mass sometimes and sometimes even receive the Eucharist...
 
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I don't know how to get holy by my own efforts... I attend the Mass sometimes and sometimes even receive the Eucharist...
We need to seek after God. I was seeking after God for maybe 5 years before He revealed Himself to me. Although He would tell me things every now and then. But not that I really noticed or paid attention that much at first. It is significant that this gets repeated in Matthew 7. We need to take notice when God says something twice.

7Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.…
 
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Depression is due to negative thinking. If you want to NOT be depressed you need to be a positive person. You need to draw positive energy. My brother is a psychologist. He says one third get better, one third stay the same and one third get worse. There is nothing he can do to change that. But I think things like the law of attraction can make a difference.
Depression is two things: anger at the self, and feeling that your life is meaningless. Life does have meaning: it has the meaning that God assigns, it is the opposite of death, and the meaning of life is love and redemption. If you are angry at yourself, you believe that you do not deserve to be loved or redeemed, hence you believe that your life is meaningless.
I don't know. I wanted to go into another branch of engineering at first through the compSci program, but I failed in doing so. Now I don't know what I'd like to do, much less what education I'd like to pursue.
Why did you fail in going into the other branch of engineering? Would you want to go back into that engineering field if you could?
If I was perfectly healthy, I'd probably say MIT or Harvard, but now that I'm not, I would not be able to complete a degree at those universities.
I see that you wish to aim high for best results.

However, you never will be perfectly healthy, because you live in a fallen body. Perfectionism is crippling. Pursue ugly solutions and put the duct tape on your tubes.

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Life is a series of patch jobs that you improve on, but if you expect perfection from your solutions right away you'll never do anything.

In addition, "I have no will to live so I can't do anything, and I can't do anything and thus I have no will to live" is circular reasoning which proves nothing and goes nowhere. You can do something, it just has to be small enough to get through your depression fog.
I don't know how to get holy by my own efforts...
You can't do that. Positional holiness (justification) is a free gift of God that is given at salvation.

Ephesians 2:4-9 said:
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

As for behavioral holiness, that cannot be accomplished in this life, but we can improve toward that as part of the sanctification process.

Phillippians 2:11-13 said:
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

Expecting sinless perfection out of yourself is a quick recipe for depression indeed! Depression is anger against the self, and if you are angry at yourself for not being holy and perfect, that will definitely erode your will to live and put distance between you and God. The bottom line is that you are as holy as God wants you to be, and your goal should not be sinless perfection, but to improve in holiness.

If this is indeed the case, you will need to pursue the ugly and unacceptable solutions and fight your feelings and body in order to move forward. There are no perfect answers, only ugly solutions that become less ugly with time.
 
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Why did you fail
Half the people in the engineering program here flunk out and have to change to a different college in the university. Some programs like nursing and architecture you have to have a 3.0 to get into the program. I had like a 2.9 but there was a way I could transfer over and they would not transfer some of the lower grades so it is not that difficult to get into the program. It is just difficult to be in the top half of the class and they tend to grade on a curve.
 
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You can grow closer to God by diligently seeking Him. You diligently seek Him by giving undivided time to Him in prayer. God yearns for you more than you want Him. If you seek Him, you will find Him.
Make space for 10-15mins daily prayer: even do that 5 days a week to begin with.

If you are depressed, counselling will be necessary.
 
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