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Conspicuous Omission in the New DDF Document on Private Revelation

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How often have we heard, concerning supernatural phenomena: “The faithful are not obliged to give an assent of faith to them,” or concerning a private revelation: “Its use is not obligatory”?

Such language, taken from the recent document “Listening to the Spirit Who Works in the Faithful People of God” released by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, May 17, 2024, is no doubt familiar.

While I am no dissenter from the authoritative teaching of the Church, and I accept the DDF document as magisterial, I am nonetheless concerned that an important aspect of our Catholic Tradition is harmfully overlooked in it.

Is it true that all private revelations and prophecies are always merely optional? Can a private revelation ever impose a moral obligation on one or more Catholics?


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How often have we heard, concerning supernatural phenomena: “The faithful are not obliged to give an assent of faith to them,” or concerning a private revelation: “Its use is not obligatory”?

Such language, taken from the recent document “Listening to the Spirit Who Works in the Faithful People of God” released by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, May 17, 2024, is no doubt familiar.

While I am no dissenter from the authoritative teaching of the Church, and I accept the DDF document as magisterial, I am nonetheless concerned that an important aspect of our Catholic Tradition is harmfully overlooked in it.

Is it true that all private revelations and prophecies are always merely optional? Can a private revelation ever impose a moral obligation on one or more Catholics?


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Maybe this is God teaching us that we should go back to His word more. I am a Catholic, but prefer sticking to the Bible more so compared to mulling over documents.
 
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Maybe this is God teaching us that we should go back to His word more. I am a Catholic, but prefer sticking to the Bible more so compared to mulling over documents.
You know that the Church is not Sola Scriptura right? Yet the RCC does nothing without Scripture. Reading the CCC is proof of that.
 
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You know that the Church is not Sola Scriptura right? Yet the RCC does nothing without Scripture. Reading the CCC is proof of that.
That is true. But here is the thing. What happens if we get a woke (I do not like using that term) Pope or Bishop in the next few decades after Pope Francis passes away or something, and the future Pope decides to push strange doctrines on us?

I have the CCC in my living room, but it is collecting dust.
 
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That is true. But here is the thing. What happens if we get a woke (I do not like using that term) Pope or Bishop in the next few decades after Pope Francis passes away or something, and the future Pope decides to push strange doctrines on us?

I have the CCC in my living room, but it is collecting dust.
We have the infallible teachings of the Church. Which is all Scripturally referenced. The CCC shows that. When we start touting things that go against those infallible teachings and the Scriptures and previous writings of Popes… well, you’re covered. :) You should be impervious to any falsity in that case. Remember, even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. What I’m most wary of are the things where they are edging things in the door without declaring anything as infallible. Look at what some did with FS.
 
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We have the infallible teachings of the Church. Which is all Scripturally referenced. The CCC shows that. When we start touting things that go against those infallible teachings and the Scriptures and previous writings of Popes… well, you’re covered. :) You should be impervious to any falsity in that case. Remember, even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. What I’m most wary of are the things where they are edging things in the door without declaring anything as infallible. Look at what some did with FS.
I am not familiar with FS in Catholicism. I am a greenhorn, only two years into Catholicism.
 
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I am not familiar with FS in Catholicism. I am a greenhorn, only two years into Catholicism.
Fiducia supplicans. It’s a document. ;) Remember certain clergy taking it and doing things they should not of done because of it?
 
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Fiducia supplicans. It’s a document. ;) Remember certain clergy taking it and doing things they should not of done because of it?
It is a document that makes gay being acceptable or something? Creepy priests and stuff?
 
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It is a document that makes gay being acceptable or something? Creepy priests and stuff?
What are Fiducia Supplicans?


The Vatican declaration “Fiducia Supplicans” roiled the Catholic world in December with its ruling that priests were permitted to offer blessings to couples living in irregular situations, including those in same-sex relationships


It was sort of a murky message. It gave the impression you could bless irregular situations. The Vatican said it was allowing the blessing of each individual but some took it as a green light to bless gay unions and other irregular unions.
 
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What are Fiducia Supplicans?


The Vatican declaration “Fiducia Supplicans” roiled the Catholic world in December with its ruling that priests were permitted to offer blessings to couples living in irregular situations, including those in same-sex relationships


It was sort of a murky message. It gave the impression you could bless irregular situations. The Vatican said it was allowing the blessing of each individual but some took it as a green light to bless gay unions and other irregular unions.
Thank you for this information.
 
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