Spanish Nuns Denounce Pope Francis, Break From Catholic Church

Wolseley said:

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Unsettling; but, I'm sad to say, not particularly surprising.

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Michie said:

A Poor Clare nun who left her monastery of Belorado, in Burgos, Spain, says she had to leave to avoid becoming part of a cult, after her community declared it was leaving the Catholic Church and placed itself under the jurisdiction of a sedevacantist self-proclaimed bishop.


Poor Clare sisters at the monastery of Belorado, together with Pablo de Rojas Sánchez-Franco. Image: Christifideles Tau via YouTube.

Sister María Amparo, 81, has been in religious life for over 60 years, 20 of which spent in Belorado. She left the community three days after her superior Sister Isabel de la Trinidad made public the community’s declaration of schism.

Sister María Amparo was taken in at another convent, and has avoided speaking to the press, but did speak to local newspaper Diario de Burgos.

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Spanish nun: schismatic monastery has become ‘a cult’

A Poor Clare who left her monastery in Burgos has said the superior announced the community was leaving the Church without consulting its members

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Michie said:

Sounds like they are breaking off to form a cult.

From the last article:

He said he hopes this can act as a warning to the wider population.

“On one hand the public exposition of this sedevacantist false bishop is a showcase for the irrationality and craziness of his pretensions, and should be seen as proof of how dangerous these groups are,” he said. “On the other hand, however, it could make him more popular in traditionalist circles, and among Catholics who are being influenced by a variety of conspiracy theories about the current state of the Catholic Church.”

Meanwhile, the Confederation of Poor Clares of Spain and Portugal, which represents 180 convents and 10 federations, has published a statementcalling on the Belorado monastery to reconcile with the Catholic Church.

“Fidelity to our way of life, as saints Clare and Francis wished it, entails communion with the magisterium of the Church, which we profess to be One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. You cannot be a Poor Clare outside of this obedience,” said the statement.

“If these sisters recognize their errors and return to communion with the Catholic Church and with the Order of St Clare, we express our willingness to welcome them back with the same love with which we received them on the day of their profession.”

The statement ends with a call to the nuns to “reconcile with God, and return to the bosom of the Church, the root of your faith and of your consecration, which you are departing from.”

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AlexB23 said:

Churches are going to splinter in the end times. So, amen to this, as this means that Jesus may be returning soon, but, no one knows the hour.

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Michie said:

Priest says schismatic Spanish nuns are in state of ‘paranoia’

Father Jesús Silva of the Archdiocese of Madrid discusses why the schismatic Poor Clares of the Belorado Monastery are experiencing what he calls “paranoia.”

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WarriorAngel said:

True but though I wish to rejoice the Lord proclaimed to some Saints He is slow to move because many still He is working on returning.

So I do not rejoice though the best part of me so much prefers Heaven. [Purgatory is gonna be a real PAIN in the last days] so that I am not looking forward to, but hopeful of it.

Also souls in peril for disobedience distresses me. We are told to hold firm. It's a bleep - but yeah.

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AlexB23 said:

I'm telling you and everyone here: Churches are getting torn apart nowadays. This tree below does not do this justice, as there are thousands are denominations. Looks like 1 Corinthians 12:24-26 is calling. Later today, an analysis of these verse will be posted in OBOB or Christian Scriptures.

1 Corinthians 1:10,12-13 (NIV): "I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?"

1 Corinthians 12:24b-26 (NIV): "But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it."

Romans 12:4-8 (NIV): "For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully."

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Lk 12:49 "I came to cast fire upon the earth; and would that it were already kindled!
Lk 12:50 I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how I am constrained until it is accomplished!
Lk 12:51 Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division;

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• “[Satan] will set up a Counter-church, which will be the ape of [the imitation of] the Church.
• It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content....
• The False Prophet will have a religion without a cross.
• A religion without a world to come.
• A religion to destroy religions.
• There will be a counterfeit Church.
• Christ’s Church will be one, and the False Prophet will create the other.
• The false Church will be worldly, ecumenical, and global.
• It will be a loose federation of churches and religions, forming some type of global association, a world parliament of Churches.
• It will be emptied of all divine content; it will be the mystical body of the Antichrist.
• The Mystical Body on earth today will have its Judas Iscariot, and he will be the False Prophet.
• Satan will recruit him from our bishops.”

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fide said:

These nuns are seeking to be obedient to our Lord Jesus Christ. The prophesy of Bp. Fulton J. Sheen (from Communism and the Conscience of the West (Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1948), 24–25) saw this below - a Church and a Counter-Church. (I re-wrote the prophesy in bulleted form.)
We need, carefully, to discern Truth here. We need to ponder, pray and compare, and ask "Where is the Truth, and where the lie? Which is the cult, and which the Church? Which is the counterfeit, and which the Certified? Who are the faithful, and who the confused?"




This description from Bp. Sheen can be found in the book:
Schneider, Bishop Athanasius; Montagna, Diane. Christus Vincit: Christ’s Triumph Over the Darkness of the Age (p. 306). Angelico Press. Kindle Edition

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Wolseley said:

Unsettling; but, I'm sad to say, not particularly surprising.

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fide said:

Don't forget this:

There is Church in the world, and there is world in the Church. This blurring cannot stand; there can be nothing unclean in the Kingdom.

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chevyontheriver said:

From the article: Referring to the papacy, she added: "From the Throne of Peter we have been receiving contradiction, confusion and doublespeak, ambiguity, lack of clear doctrine, which is all the more necessary in stormy times, to hold the rudder more firmly. During this time the sisters, each in her own style, way and rhythm, have been contemplating a question, a doubt about the one who steers the Barque of Peter, and his closest collaborators. A doubt which, in time, became SCANDAL."

That seems absolutely true. How does one balance that with the need to accept the papacy? They obviously couldn't figure it.

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